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pushkick Sat May 23, 2015 3:32 pm

on standard steel rims how much do you torque your wheel lugs?
the reason i am asking i am thinking about buying cordless impact tool.
want to make sure it will work.

djkeev Sat May 23, 2015 3:38 pm

Non lubricated Nuts/lugs 100 lbs though I'm anal and always gi a tad tighter..... Not sure why.

Dave

djkeev Sat May 23, 2015 3:42 pm

Just looked at Bentley.... Up to 1984 125 ft lbs
After... 135 ft lbs.

Now I know why I go tighter!!!!

Dave

Steve M. Sat May 23, 2015 3:43 pm

Why would you use/trust an impact tool to torque your lugs?

I remember Bentley as saying 123 ft.lbs., dry.

Zeitgeist 13 Sat May 23, 2015 3:48 pm

Goldilocks tight

Wildthings Sat May 23, 2015 3:56 pm

pushkick wrote: on standard steel rims how much do you torque your wheel lugs?
the reason i am asking i am thinking about buying cordless impact tool.
want to make sure it will work.

A torque wrench is what will work. :wink:

Steve M. Sat May 23, 2015 4:19 pm

This raises a good question.
If you follow Bentley's 123 ft.lbs. on original steel,
what torque do you use on aluminum wheels?

insyncro Sat May 23, 2015 4:23 pm

Going tighter is not better.
Ask your brake rotors/drums.

Ahwahnee Sat May 23, 2015 5:41 pm

Steve M. wrote: Why would you use/trust an impact tool to torque your lugs?...

Perhaps the OP is wondering if the cordless impact wrench will be stout enough to undo a properly torqued lug.

To the OP - in my experience the torque claims made by electric impact wrenches are wildly optimistic. They certainly have their uses but don't expect miracles.

Pondo Sat May 23, 2015 6:01 pm

This may be useful....

http://t3technique.com/media/pdf/Lug_torque.pdf

ThankYouJerry Sat May 23, 2015 6:13 pm

Peter at Van Cafe advised me 123# on my 15" Carrot Wheels (alloy).

shadetreetim Sat May 23, 2015 7:30 pm

My thought would be to use the impact to spin the lugs on and off quickly, but use a torque wrench to finish tightening.

rubbachicken Sat May 23, 2015 7:37 pm

i always go to 120 ftlbs and go around twice.
i met a van who had new wheels put on, who ever put them on, only went around once :roll: 2 of 5 were tight, the rest were loose :shock:
same on all the wheels.
the center of the wheel was tight on the rotor, too tight, so they got to torque, but they were not seated on the rotor as the should have been.

Wildthings Sat May 23, 2015 7:44 pm

Pondo wrote: This may be useful....

http://t3technique.com/media/pdf/Lug_torque.pdf

That is about as good an article as I have seen. What it doesn't mention though is that under torquing the lugs can cause the lugs to seize/gall to the wheels from the tiny bit of movement they get from the lug nut working against the seat. When I first took my '91 into my local tire place in a town with lots of Vanagons, they flat out refused to tighten the lugs any tighter than 90ft*lbs because they were having too much trouble removing them at that torque and they believed that if they tightened them tighter they would not be able to get them off at all. Well I stood my ground and forced them to tighten them to 123ft*lbs. They eventually consented to doing so and also tried the higher torque out on some other Vanagons. What they found was that the lugs were easier to remove months or years later when torqued to the proper specs and not harder.

These days and for probably the last decade I have not had to tell them to use the 123ft*lbs spec, they just do it, though I do still routinely quiz them on the specs.

Terry Kay Sun May 24, 2015 7:21 am

Three hammer's on your 1/2" impact will do just fine.

Perfect--

Gauche1968 Sun May 24, 2015 8:20 am

Stock steel wheels: 133 ft/lbs front, 123 ft/lbs rear, right?

Wildthings Sun May 24, 2015 9:08 am

Gauche1968 wrote: Stock steel wheels: 133 ft/lbs front, 123 ft/lbs rear, right?




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