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khalimadeath Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:07 pm

I noticed a leak on my master cylinder and started looking for a replacement. I noticed mine does not look like most typical master cylinders for a 1970. I was hoping you guys could help me figure out which one to buy. It has 2 hard lines 2 brake switches, and the reservoir on top.




old DKP driver Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:18 pm

Your picture is the 1970 211 611 021 T with the 2 switches

The 68- 69 year model is a 211 611 021 Q with 3 switches

You will have to shop around and Call since i see a replacement from
autohausaz only comes with one brake light switch port ?

check bus depot, bughaus and others

khalimadeath Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:52 pm

old DKP driver wrote: Your picture is the 1970 211 611 021 T with the 2 switches

The 68- 69 year model is a 211 611 021 Q with 3 switches

You will have to shop around and Call since i see a replacement from
autohausaz only comes with one brake light switch port ?

check bus depot, bughaus and others

Thanks for the info.. These are proving to be hard to find.. There is one here on Ebay..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRAKE-MASTER-CYLINDER-WITH...mp;vxp=mtr

asiab3 Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:04 am

Wolfsburg West has all the early bay master cylinders. The T you need is only available in the highest quality version.

(Chris, interestingly enough, the Q 68-69 picture on WW shows a dual switch master. My '69 had a dual switch master installed some years ago too.)

wcfvw69 Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:06 am

http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/volkswagen,1970...inder,1836

khalimadeath Sun Nov 20, 2016 3:26 pm

wcfvw69 wrote: http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/volkswagen,1970...inder,1836

nice find, hwo do you feel about the "raybestos" brand? LOL

khalimadeath Sun Nov 20, 2016 3:27 pm

asiab3 wrote: Wolfsburg West has all the early bay master cylinders. The T you need is only available in the highest quality version.

(Chris, interestingly enough, the Q 68-69 picture on WW shows a dual switch master. My '69 had a dual switch master installed some years ago too.)

What "T" are you talking about?

khalimadeath Sun Nov 20, 2016 5:07 pm

Also, should I replace the switches even if they are working fine?

wcfvw69 Sun Nov 20, 2016 7:48 pm

khalimadeath wrote: wcfvw69 wrote: http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/volkswagen,1970...inder,1836

nice find, hwo do you feel about the "raybestos" brand? LOL

I think it would be worth a call to them and ask who made it and where was made. :wink:

If your brake switches work, I wouldn't automatically replace them. They could be good German made ATE switches or another good brand. If they are Autozone cheap Chinese made specials, yea, they need to go in the trash can and then be replaced with German made ones.

wcfvw69 Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:27 pm

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1934811

Just saw this. :D

cdennisg Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:00 pm

khalimadeath wrote: wcfvw69 wrote: http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/volkswagen,1970...inder,1836

nice find, hwo do you feel about the "raybestos" brand? LOL

The last Raybestos MC I bought from RockAuto (for my old 70 camper) was in fact an ATE made in Germany but packed in a Raybestos box. For $27.

If you order this one, and it is an ATE, let us know. I'll by another one just for shelf stock.

asiab3 Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:19 pm

khalimadeath wrote: asiab3 wrote: Wolfsburg West has all the early bay master cylinders. The T you need is only available in the highest quality version.

(Chris, interestingly enough, the Q 68-69 picture on WW shows a dual switch master. My '69 had a dual switch master installed some years ago too.)

What "T" are you talking about?

See how DKP Driver posted the part numbers above, and they have letters after each? It's just a quick way of differentiation between two similar but different parts. If you look at the parts on Wolfsburg West's website, you'll see matching part numbers.

Robbie

khalimadeath Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:54 am

wcfvw69 wrote: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1934811

Just saw this. :D

It only has one port for a brake light switch

khalimadeath Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:58 am

cdennisg wrote: khalimadeath wrote: wcfvw69 wrote: http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/volkswagen,1970...inder,1836

nice find, hwo do you feel about the "raybestos" brand? LOL

The last Raybestos MC I bought from RockAuto (for my old 70 camper) was in fact an ATE made in Germany but packed in a Raybestos box. For $27.

If you order this one, and it is an ATE, let us know. I'll by another one just for shelf stock.

Unfortunately the last Raybestos was bought up before I could but it. I ended up getting the IAP brand.

khalimadeath Sat Nov 26, 2016 1:20 pm

If anyone was in the market Jbugs has German made brake lines for a pretty good price. They have free shipping over $100 so in my case it made the decision pretty easy. Ill update again when I get my Master cylinder from Rockauto

khalimadeath Sun Nov 27, 2016 12:10 pm

The IAP brand MC I got just had the vw part number on it. That was the only markings visible. Thoughts on if its a remaned OEM MC?

cdennisg Sun Nov 27, 2016 12:50 pm

khalimadeath wrote: The IAP brand MC I got just had the vw part number on it. That was the only markings visible. Thoughts on if its a remaned OEM MC?

Is there a country of manufacture on the packaging? I am guessing it is Brazil or Mexico. I think the only China versions are KMM. If it were German, it would likely say ATE on the side.

wcfvw69 Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:41 pm

khalimadeath wrote: The IAP brand MC I got just had the vw part number on it. That was the only markings visible. Thoughts on if its a remaned OEM MC?

Pics?

khalimadeath Sun Nov 27, 2016 2:31 pm

I will post up some more pics when I get home tonight of the package and the MC



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