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allsidius Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:06 pm

The definitive history on the Volkswagen development, Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber, has been out of print for a long time, and prices have risen accordingly. This is one of the more reasonable offers I have seen in quite some time. A sizeable piece of cash, but still not near those ridiculous 2 k offers I have seen.

The book is amazing, and I am not selling my copy. Just thought someone might be interested.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Birth-Of-The-Beetle-By-Chr...0290.m3507

MDKG Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:18 am

Holy... :shock: ! I am almost tempted to let my copy in perfect condition go for that amount...almost.. :D ! Interesting; my feeling is that not many other printed VW related items like brochures and other books are showing the same increase in value.

splitjunkie Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:06 am

I don't remember how much I paid for mine but it was right after the number 6 thread started. I think I paid around $50. Glad I got it when I did.

MDKG Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:29 am

Same here :).

KTPhil Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:01 am

Great price relative to recent offers. Thanks for the notice.

Amazon shows several used at or near this price, plus a few much higher, and new... :shock: nearly $1000!

allsidius Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:19 am

KTPhil wrote: Great price relative to recent offers. Thanks for the notice.

Amazon shows several used at or near this price, plus a few much higher, and new... :shock: nearly $1000!

I actually saw a couple at above 2k! The most expensive on amazon now is $600.

This is one sad result of Amazon and Ebay making items like this available to the whole world at the klick of a mouse. Supply and demand. Yesteryear, you had to scour every catalog of antique bookshops, and if you were lucky you could find it after a year of search. But the price used to be less than new for such new editions. I cannot remember seeing newer books like this go through the roof in the same way.

GArBa Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:21 pm

I bought my first beetle books from the oldest and most respected (and still to this day, the only) automotive-only bookstore in Milan, the Libreria dell'Automobile, whose owner (Mr.Giorgio Nada) also runs a motor-themed publishing house. It was an emotion to enter there and let my eyes run on the wooden shelves along the books, rigurously placed in alphabetic order by marque. I remember Alfa Romeo and Ferrari had quite a lot of space, but any marque was there, and if there still wasn't a book on it, Mr.Nada was always about to publish one.
I bought there my now prized 80s VW-museum catalog in german language as well as many other books on other car marques of my interest.

well "birth of the beetle" was the first I bought online. Because it was something like 5 euros cheaper. I don't think it's for the good or the bad, it's just a new way to sell. This year I found the complete "Der Kaefer" series (a NOS series can go for thousand of euros), as well as the last edition of "volkswagens of the world" both for human-being fitting prices, after literally years of scouting on ebay.

the internet lets people know that a book is around so demand rises up quickly, but you still have to do that sleuth work to find out-of-print editions. and when "volkswagen of the world" arrived at my door from an english bookshop, as soon as I unwrapped it I smelled the typical "old bookstore fragrance" I used to smell as a kid in the Libreria dell'Automobile.

technology tweaks our lives a bit, but we are still humans.

notchboy Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:58 pm

Why is this book better best than the several historical takes I read out of several book over the last couple decades?

More in depth? Just curious to know why you guys think its great.

Splitdog Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:02 pm

Complete and thorough telling of the story of the early prototypes and following them through the years, actually following the car numbers and what happened to them. Detailed information on the tests, and the who's and what's.

splitjunkie Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:15 pm

No other book even comes close.

theastronaut Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:35 pm

I still have the copy my mom bought me when I was a kid.

EverettB Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:50 pm

allsidius wrote: KTPhil wrote: Great price relative to recent offers. Thanks for the notice.

Amazon shows several used at or near this price, plus a few much higher, and new... :shock: nearly $1000!

I actually saw a couple at above 2k! The most expensive on amazon now is $600.

This is one sad result of Amazon and Ebay making items like this available to the whole world at the klick of a mouse. Supply and demand. Yesteryear, you had to scour every catalog of antique bookshops, and if you were lucky you could find it after a year of search. But the price used to be less than new for such new editions. I cannot remember seeing newer books like this go through the roof in the same way.

Sort of but mostly there are sellers on Amazon that list things for stupid amounts to see if they sell. I've seen this with several other books too and found them from other sellers or elsewhere for a fraction of the price.

Grant Reiling Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:03 pm

EverettB wrote: allsidius wrote: KTPhil wrote: Great price relative to recent offers. Thanks for the notice.

Amazon shows several used at or near this price, plus a few much higher, and new... :shock: nearly $1000!

I actually saw a couple at above 2k! The most expensive on amazon now is $600.

This is one sad result of Amazon and Ebay making items like this available to the whole world at the klick of a mouse. Supply and demand. Yesteryear, you had to scour every catalog of antique bookshops, and if you were lucky you could find it after a year of search. But the price used to be less than new for such new editions. I cannot remember seeing newer books like this go through the roof in the same way.
Perhaps unrelated, though I followed the link and (finally) bought myself a copy of this landmark book...Only to be later dismayed by the ensuing sellers' message: "I'm sorry but the book sold on another web site 17 minutes before you purchased the book. I was away from home when this occurred and had no way to remove this listing. I will immediately refund your payment. Once again I am sorry. Thank you for your understanding. :oops:
For whatever it's worth; she did issue a refund as stated...though still a lost opportunity...so, the hunt continues. :arrow:

Birth Of The Beetle By Chris Barber 2003 Hardcover"

Sort of but mostly there are sellers on Amazon that list things for stupid amounts to see if they sell. I've seen this with several other books too and found them from other sellers or elsewhere for a fraction of the price.

allsidius Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:33 pm

Grant Reiling wrote: Perhaps unrelated, though I followed the link and (finally) bought myself a copy of this landmark book...Only to be later dismayed by the ensuing sellers' message: "I'm sorry but the book sold on another web site 17 minutes before you purchased the book. I was away from home when this occurred and had no way to remove this listing. I will immediately refund your payment. Once again I am sorry. Thank you for your understanding. :oops:
For whatever it's worth; she did issue a refund as stated...though still a lost opportunity...so, the hunt continues.

Birth Of The Beetle By Chris Barber 2003 Hardcover"


That is truly disappointing. I would raise a complaint against the seller on Ebay, I do not think this is allowed, unless clearly stated in the description. I have found the Ebay claims service helpful sometimes, although real tricky to get in touch with. I assume Ebay wants their sellers to deliver what they offer. You will probably not get the book, but he will possibly receive a warning from Ebay.

MDKG Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:15 am

GArBa wrote: ....This year I found the complete "Der Kaefer" series (a NOS series can go for thousand of euros).....

Seriously? You mean the series by Etzold? I have all 4 and bought them about 25 years ago. If I do a search now they come up for 20-30 euros each not thousands...would have been a good investment though ;-)!

Mif Fri Oct 13, 2017 4:19 am

https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/152740480219

I spotted this on eBay uk yesterday if itís any help to anyone?

Grant Reiling Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:37 pm

Mif wrote: https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/152740480219

I spotted this on eBay uk yesterday if itís any help to anyone?
Yes indeed; thanks for posting this mif; bid placed...wish me luck. :!: 8)

favguy Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:31 am

Yeah, thanks for that Mif, now everyone on here knows about it, it's sure to stay a baragin lol!

Grant Reiling Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:22 pm

favguy wrote: Yeah, thanks for that Mif, now everyone on here knows about it, it's sure to stay a baragin lol!
Precisely why I got it elsewhere. :wink: :arrow:

kdf38 Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:37 pm

I have an unopened German copy if anyone has an unopened to very good English version to trade. :)

Mike



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