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Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:46 pm

Aloha Folks!

My brother sent me a Youtube link about a sleeper Volvo and other videos, and I noticed a sick fast Skoda 120. Mm, seems like this thing has a rear engine, rear wheel drive to me ? Da fok?

It directly reminded me of something I posted a while ago in the New Syncro transmission topic:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...p;start=60
ALIKA T3 wrote: A Fortin transaxle with the 5th gear converted into a Low gear could be a good base to start off, add a locker and an output shaft. Aouch the price.... Maybe modifying an existing Audi transmission is a better idea :lol:

http://www.fortinracing.com/transaxles.html

This seems like a good base too, Sadev transmission http://www.sadac.cz/manual/gearbox-sl90-20-4x4-paf.pdf

You can the attachment here is off the same case it looks like

http://www.sadac.cz/manual/gearbox-sl90-20-4x4-central.pdf

The Sadev transmissions are found on old Renault's sometimes. See where the Sadev is from? .CZ website. YUP 8)

So I started to dig out information, but nothing but 2 pictures of a Skoda 130 transmission came out with english keywords. Definitely the kind of car not much mainstream in the Western mind. Wikipedia is a great ressource, Skoda Rally cars were dope!

I needed to try researching with a Czech term. "Skoda 130 Převodovka".

He-hé! Getting there!
Here is a link to the catalog of parts for the car, transmission included ;-)
http://skoda-katalog.eu/ekatalog-105-120/katalog/#cat2

What?! How did I never found out about this transmission before? I spent hours on Google looking for "modern" transaxles. Unreal!

Well, look.at.that!

Looks pretty beefy to me, 4 and 5 speed versions. They made dog gears kit for them too, Löbro axle flanges and even a 6 speed kit here:
http://www.motorsportshop.cz/category/zavodni_prevodovky_kompletni/37.html

A 5 speed transmission is 3800 bucks! :P :P

6 speed

Mainshaft, I would bet 5 bucks the coupler splines match the VW :lol:

Löbro style flanges kit

Dog kit 5 speed

The starter placement is really familiar with the VW style, Skoda is part of the VAG group now, but wasn't at that time.

I looked up if anybody had mounted this transmission in a bug or a VW, I didn't find anything in Czech nor in German.

I just cannot believe it. This seems like a great transaxle, similar internal construction to the UN1 Renault made by ZF.

What do you guys think of it? :P :P

Cheers!

Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:00 pm

Looks pretty close to VW. Good find. Wonder what the 1 thru 5 gear ratios are.

9 teeth on the pinion is a nice number.

Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:13 pm

Sodo wrote: Looks pretty close to VW. Good find. Wonder what the 1 thru 5 gear ratios are.

9 teeth on the pinion is a nice number.

You got the ratios on the parts catalog I put the link ;-)

Differential parts after 1982
http://skoda-katalog.eu/ekatalog-105-120/katalog/51-diferencial

Gears 5 speed and differential
http://skoda-katalog.eu/ekatalog-105-120/katalog/49-hridele-a-ozubena-kola-(5q)
Differential 4.22 and/or 3.9 available I think
4.22 here
http://skoda-katalog.eu/ekatalog-105-120/photos/113-310352.jpg

Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:13 am

As I remember these are very long compared to the 094, so you will need to cut the crossmember to fit

Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:43 am

ZsZ wrote: As I remember these are very long compared to the 094, so you will need to cut the crossmember to fit

Would not be a problem to some, I did it for my UN1, people do it for the Porsche transmissions. Definitely not a plug and play swap but the transmission is definitely an interesting unit :D

Do you have more info about them?

Cheers!

Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:06 am

Does it spin in the correct direction for a vanagon? I find these threads with alternate transmissions interesting, but something more readily available in the US would be nice for those of us here. I did some research on the Porsche transaxle, but found they get bought up quickly for the kit car market and the prices are high.

I like how this transaxle is a side loader.

Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:05 pm

Canada imported those Skoda's for a few years back in the 80's. Either Czechoslovakia owed us a lot of money or we traded them for a few shipments of wheat.
There was a fastback version as well.

Put it in H!

Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:15 pm

^^

that clip always makes me laugh. H. haha.

ALIKA T3: I've been enjoying your posts!

I don't really know enough to say but my thought is also that it may be too long ?? But if the nose is narrow enough.....

Very cool find though.

Neil.

Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:21 pm

MarkWard wrote: Does it spin in the correct direction for a vanagon? I find these threads with alternate transmissions interesting, but something more readily available in the US would be nice for those of us here. I did some research on the Porsche transaxle, but found they get bought up quickly for the kit car market and the prices are high.

I like how this transaxle is a side loader.

yes sir, confirmed by the guts opened with the crown wheel exposed ;-)

Prolly won't happen to find an easy solution, this was mostly to bring up attention to this transaxle :wink:

Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:22 pm

Gruppe B wrote: Canada imported those Skoda's for a few years back in the 80's. Either Czechoslovakia owed us a lot of money or we traded them for a few shipments of wheat.
There was a fastback version as well.

Yes I saw that on Wikipedia :D

Thank you Vanagon Nut :wink:

Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:46 am

May be it's not so actual, but anyway:
Skoda become part of VW as everyone known here, but not everyone known about interesting fact:
bellhousing of Skoda 742 was the same as used on Favorit and Felicia.
Mean gearbox of Favorit/Felicia (FWD small car) actually bolted on on the same engine as Skoda 130.
VW used SDI engine on Felicia, bolted to the Skoda gearbox via adapter plate: 002 103 200.
Now You are able to connect any VW l4 water cooled engine to the Skoda type gearbox, include gearbox Skoda 130.

Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:04 am

That's a great first post. Welcome!