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Dynamite_Goat Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:20 pm

I want a brand new booster - preferably VW. My rebuild from last year is leaking again already. I've been poking around looking for options and was considering the VW Brazilian version that requires some modifications. I was just about to pull the trigger when I stumbled upon what claims to be a new German VW unit at CIP1:

http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC-211-612-103

I ordered one. I'll let you know if it's the real deal.

Abscate Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:47 am

What's does " Original German or equivalent " mean?

:roll:

BayCreamPuff Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:15 am

It’s ATE which is OEM. Super high quality bolt on replacement. I’ve had mine for over a year with no complaints.

BayCreamPuff Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:37 am

Here’s the 2017 Ate Classics Catalog

http://www.ate-brakes.com/media/3176/ate-classic-c5-2017.pdf

Catalog page 448 (PDF 552)

Dynamite_Goat Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:49 am

Abscate wrote: What's does " Original German or equivalent " mean?

:roll:

That's just their rating system - not the part description. Hope BayCreamPuff is right and it's ATE. That would be good. Will report back once I get it.

samwise Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:51 am

There's some strange stuff in that catalog, like clutch master and slave cylinders for our buses - when did they get hydraulic clutches? :lol: Hmm, the hydraulic clutch bits go from 05/79 to 07/79 - I wonder if they were for very early Vanagons?

Looks like servos, master cylinders, brake rotors, brake pads, calipers, brake shoes, brake drums, brake hoses, parking brake cables and clutch cables all being made by ATE again - to quote the catalog:

Continental’s new ATE Classic product family allows classic car enthusiasts to carry out professional brake repairs with parts that match the originals

Very good news for the entire classic car sector if they are remaking to original quality!

Interestingly, I didn't know that there was a different parking brake cable set up from June '79 to the end of production (different to 08/75-05/79, according to the catalog), a different servo from 05/79 to end of production

Abscate Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:12 am

Dynamite_Goat wrote: Abscate wrote: What's does " Original German or equivalent " mean?

:roll:

That's just their rating system - not the part description. Hope BayCreamPuff is right and it's ATE. That would be good. Will report back once I get it.

Pulling for ya!!!

I should post "I hope it sucks, but that might be confusing..."

Q-Dog Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:51 pm

Any thoughts on this one? http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=211612103

70Crew Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:11 pm

Q-Dog wrote: Any thoughts on this one? http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=211612103

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=583610&highlight=brake+booster

Q-Dog Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:23 pm

70Crew wrote: Q-Dog wrote: Any thoughts on this one? http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=211612103

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=583610&highlight=brake+booster

Have they fixed the issues since these were announced 4 years ago?

raygreenwood Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:18 pm

samwise wrote: There's some strange stuff in that catalog, like clutch master and slave cylinders for our buses - when did they get hydraulic clutches? :lol: Hmm, the hydraulic clutch bits go from 05/79 to 07/79 - I wonder if they were for very early Vanagons?

Looks like servos, master cylinders, brake rotors, brake pads, calipers, brake shoes, brake drums, brake hoses, parking brake cables and clutch cables all being made by ATE again - to quote the catalog:

Continental’s new ATE Classic product family allows classic car enthusiasts to carry out professional brake repairs with parts that match the originals

Very good news for the entire classic car sector if they are remaking to original quality!

Interestingly, I didn't know that there was a different parking brake cable set up from June '79 to the end of production (different to 08/75-05/79, according to the catalog), a different servo from 05/79 to end of production

Yes....the hydraulic slaves and mastera are Vanagon. Of course....not the first for an ACVW.....as the 411 and 412 cars had hydraulic clutches from 1968 to 1975. Ray

kreemoweet Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:48 pm

Q-dog wrote: Have they fixed the issues since these were announced 4 years ago?

Evidently not: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=679475

Dynamite_Goat Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:28 pm

Got my booster today - it's the real deal - German ATE and perfect in every respect. Not the cheapest option but worth the extra money IMHO.

BayCreamPuff nailed it with the early call. :D

WendyArmbuster Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:09 pm

I followed the link, but it is already out of stock, and they don't show the price. I was set to buy too. How much was it?

EDIT: Cancel that. I found the price in the middle of what appears to be a banner ad.

Dynamite_Goat Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:50 am

WendyArmbuster wrote: I followed the link, but it is already out of stock, and they don't show the price. I was set to buy too. How much was it?

EDIT: Cancel that. I found the price in the middle of what appears to be a banner ad.

That sucks. It was $299 w/free shipping.

Abscate Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:52 am

I bought them all like a little brake booster troll, and I am storing them under by Bridge....

Hoody Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:00 am

The Bus Depot is showing them in stock. Same price.

tommu Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:25 pm

kreemoweet wrote: Q-dog wrote: Have they fixed the issues since these were announced 4 years ago?

Evidently not: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=679475

And never any response from WW..

WendyArmbuster Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:25 pm

Hoody wrote: The Bus Depot is showing them in stock. Same price.

The pictures look different, and the Bus Depot description says I will have to redrill my mounting plate. It could be that the CIP one requires a redrill as well, but they just don't say it, and the photos could just be representational. I don't know.

BayCreamPuff Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:30 pm

WendyArmbuster wrote: Hoody wrote: The Bus Depot is showing them in stock. Same price.

The pictures look different, and the Bus Depot description says I will have to redrill my mounting plate. It could be that the CIP one requires a redrill as well, but they just don't say it, and the photos could just be representational. I don't know.

The one that requires drilling is not Ate. It's "genuine vw of brazil" and it has a different bolt pattern. Bus depot used to carry the Ate one, but I don't see it anymore.



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