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Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:49 pm

So, I'm a home builder, cabinet maker, mechanic, all around handy guy.

My Brother who is a avid sailor pointed me to a series of videos on restoring an old 1910 British Ship, the Tally-Ho.

He found it in Brookings Oregon and moved it up to Washington State.

Now, I am NOT a sailor nor do I ever want to build or restore a boat, but this series has been Fascinating and humbling!

The wood working skills are nothing short of amazing.
Then throw in the math and the geometry of the process.
Add in the tools used and skill involved.

I'm only up through 26 but I am hopelessly hooked.

Here's a link to 26, you can search back to #1. It will be well worth your effort to do so.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FWbSKjSVKsk

Dave

Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:04 pm

Yeah, that wasn't a boat, it was just a mostly complete series of patterns, yuck.

Great, now I have something else to binge watch. Thanks :roll: :lol:

Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:40 am

futtock is a good word!
so when it's finished how much of the original will remain...

Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:03 am

He freely admits that much of the original boat will be replaced because of the hard life the ship previously had, how it was poorly stored out of water for so long, neglect and the damage it incurred back in the 1960's.

What I find encouraging is the number of young people (Leo the host is only 27, 28 at the time) learning the old wood working skills that have become almost forgotten.
Yes, they are utilizing 21st century tools as they perform these ancient skills such as angle grinders, routers, laser levels, power planes, belt sanders etc. but the end result is basically the same.

To tie this boat into VW's, one of his volunteer helpers came up from California. He is a cabinet maker for VW Vanagon camper interiors.
They showed him driving away in his Vanagon tin top.

Dave

Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:54 am

I've been watching it since about episode 3 was first posted. He's doing great work although I keep waiting for the accident I'm afraid is coming--he doesn't take safety anywhere near seriously enough, especially when he has guys who don't know much there working with him. Every time he picks up that big chainsaw I get nervous.

I also wonder about the "hosts" who have given him a place to live and a fully equipped woodworking shop but never appear on camera. Combine that with all the stuff like the forklift and the ship's saw that magically appear and I suspect there's way more going on than his simple YouTube story would have you believe. Someone is writing big checks behind the scenes, and that's fine, but it would be nice to understand what's really happening.

That said, for a guy in his 20s he has an amazing amount of self-confidence and drive, and I watch the new episodes as soon as they're posted.

(He has a Sampson Boat facebook page where he posts mini-updates and additional photos. If you're a fan it's worth subscribing.)

Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:27 am

My Brother (also a wood worker) and I have had this very discussion about safety.

Why a 3' bar to cut 4” timbers?
Why no push block when using the jointer?
Why is the table saw blade so high?
Why is the band saw throat adjusted so high?

Anyway, around #38 or so, he does injure himself.

Financing? Power to him for whatever he has secured.

Dave

Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:41 am

It's funny about that accident. He cuts the tip of his finger off, and it's been months now and he still hasn't admitted how he did it. It must have been something really stupid.

I'm worried about falls. He does some real circus trick stuff trying to jockey those big beams up on the deck, and he frequently seems to forget that old rule about one hand for the work and the other for yourself.

I haven't decided about the girlfriend. When she first showed up I thought "Uh Oh, here's Yoko about to break up the band." So far she hasn't caused much drama, but I still think she's trouble.

Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:49 am

Hadn't thought of the high wire acts. But you're right,

The girl? There's been several. The dark haired English girl (I'm only up to #38 ) seems to be chief cook and bottle washer.

Leo seems like a "wanderer", by that I mean he won't be the cottage with white picket fence kind of guy.
He seems More like a New England ships captain whose houses had the famed widow walk up on the roof to watch for her love's ship to sail in eventually.

Dave

Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:37 am

I don’t know if it’s “kosher” to toss in a different build here but I thought it wasn’t worth starting another thread but if you like watching this build, this “Borax wagon build” is pretty cool too.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3Qu3GIvx73EgVa8dYcN_e9ps2BDMO9j3

Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:51 am

I discovered Leo and Tally Ho because I was already watching Louie at Tips from a Shipwright.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzlN3A2DLgNwE2RCpQ9vKCmeOwvKCRRjF

Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:15 am

Thanks for the link! Watched up through 8 last night, to where he raised it off the lead keel.
Super interesting. Not surprised to hear most of the wood will be replaced, there was so much rot I was wondering how exactly he was going to repair it.

He has a Patreon setup - https://www.patreon.com/sampsonboatco
Currently 2,505 subscribers, at a minimum of $2/vid (tier breakdown isn't visible).
At two vids per month he's pulling a minimum of $10k/mo just with that.
And he clearly has other backers, with the free workshop space right on the coast.

Related to safety, Adam Savage posted a vid recently explaining how he nearly lost a finger - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaGnyaR2B7s
Props to him for posting it, you could tell how embarrassed he was.

Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:37 pm

I love woodworking - esp boats. There is a lot of engineering into ship-building. I have a profound respect for the people who built them before..all by hand. Each log hewn into a fine piece of lovely lines and strength.

The boat has been out of water. So it will probably sink when it is put back.

Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:22 pm

nsracing wrote: I love woodworking - esp boats. There is a lot of engineering into ship-building. I have a profound respect for the people who built them before..all by hand. Each log hewn into a fine piece of lovely lines and strength.

The boat has been out of water. So it will probably sink when it is put back.

I doubt it.
He is doing a complete rebuild from the keel up.
It will most likely seep and leak for a few weeks/months but probably not sink.

Dave

Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:06 am

I keep scanning the sky for ME 109s when I reach this thread

Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:41 am

pauke pauke!!

Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:46 am

djkeev wrote: nsracing wrote: I love woodworking - esp boats. There is a lot of engineering into ship-building. I have a profound respect for the people who built them before..all by hand. Each log hewn into a fine piece of lovely lines and strength.

The boat has been out of water. So it will probably sink when it is put back.

I doubt it.
He is doing a complete rebuild from the keel up.
It will most likely seep and leak for a few weeks/months but probably not sink.

Dave

This reminds me of Joshua Slocum sailing solo book....

After he fitted out Spray, he dropped her into the water and then frantically bailed out while all the wood swelled to seal the hull.

I love fiberglass.

Sat Apr 18, 2020 6:31 am

Abscate wrote: djkeev wrote: nsracing wrote: I love woodworking - esp boats. There is a lot of engineering into ship-building. I have a profound respect for the people who built them before..all by hand. Each log hewn into a fine piece of lovely lines and strength.

The boat has been out of water. So it will probably sink when it is put back.

I doubt it.
He is doing a complete rebuild from the keel up.
It will most likely seep and leak for a few weeks/months but probably not sink.

Dave

This reminds me of Joshua Slocum sailing solo book....

After he fitted out Spray, he dropped her into the water and then frantically bailed out while all the wood swelled to seal the hull.

I love fiberglass.

Until the hairline cracks develop, water seeps into the wooden reinforcement members which then silently and out of sight decompose to dust and then all rigidity just vanishes!

Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:34 am

In episode 21ish, it's amazing that he didn't bisect his shin with that chainsaw rig.

In episode 22, around the 5:50 mark, I wonder what the York A/C compressor was use for in the boat. :-k Was it fitted with A/C at some point? Even then, it would have been very near the end of the boat's last use.

Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:58 am

Old York compressors were often used as air compressors. I used one for years hooked to an electric motor.

Tough little buggers they were.

Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:04 am

djkeev wrote: Old York compressors were often used as air compressors. I used one for years hooked to an electric motor.

Tough little buggers they were.

Until they switched to making Peppermint Patties.