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GHIA Thu May 28, 2020 8:08 am

If we look at the spare parts catalog of may1960 and january 1961 there are 3 possible references for the front turn signal lens
- 141 953 161 (translucent glass )
- 141 953 161A (translucent glass version for USA)
- 141 953 161B (orange plastic version)

But by doing research on the forum (thank Loren and pbaptist for the photo), I realized that there were 6 different versions for the same period for the translucent glass version


Version 1: Hella and VW logo on the top. Under that is BL-Po and under that is 330. Glass lens


Version 2: With Hella logo on the top but VW logo is missing. Under that is BL-Po and under that is 330. Glass lens



Version 3: With VW and Hella logo on top with K12623, "A" with a circle, and 2294 under the logos. Glass lens


Version 4: Without logo VW but with Hella logo on top with K12623, "A" with a circle, and 2294 under the logos. Glass lens



Version 5: With VW and Hella logo, K12623, "A" with a circle, 2294 and I.G.M. 06221I4. Glass lens



Version 6: With Hella logo, but without logo VW, K12623, "A" with a circle, 2294 and I.G.M. 0622I4. Glass lens


Which would say which version corresponds to the reference 141 953 161 and 141 953 161A ?
What do mean the inscriptions K12623 and I.G.M. 0622I4 ?

What version do you have on your vehicle from chassis 2 103 015 to chassis 5 853 202.

On my 04/61 I have the version n2

ELFRIED Fri May 29, 2020 5:31 am

On my '63 I also have version 2.

Trylon Fri May 29, 2020 6:27 am

12/58

Version 2


GHIA Fri May 29, 2020 10:47 am

Thank you Trylon and ELFRIED for your response


Date 05/62 version n2


Date 06/62 version n2
Date 04/63 version n2

The version 3 and 5 would have been produced only as a spare part in the late 60s or early 70s ????

The version n1 would have the reference 141 953 161 and the version n2 would have the reference 141 953 161A ???

The 10/58 lowlights would have version n1 for a short time?

sputnick60 Fri May 29, 2020 4:27 pm

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GHIA Sat May 30, 2020 7:04 am

I modified my initial post by adding 2 other version found on the web

dc Sun May 31, 2020 5:47 pm

I have version #2 on my '63
BUT they are not exactly the same (7th version?)
The Hella logo is bigger on one of them while the BL-Po is smaller on that same one... photo in a minute

Srecko Sun May 31, 2020 8:53 pm

Anyone making the glass lenses?

GHIA Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:47 am

Thank you dc for your participation.
Yes we can consider this as a 7th version

Here is an extract from the spare parts catalog of january 1961



What difference is there between reference 141 953 161 and 141 953 161A ?
The both are white (translucent) and only one is marked M138 (only for the USA).

This is identical on the spare parts catalog of May 1960, only ref 141 953 161B (orange plastic version) doesn't yet exist.

On a spare parts catalog from April 63 (supplement 6/64) the part 141 953 161 (White version) is deleted and replaced by the 141 953 161B (orange plastic version)


What difference is there from 10/58 until the beginning of 1964 between the USA (Ref 141 953 161A) and Europe (Ref 141 953 161) version ?

GHIA Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:32 am

Who would have a photo of the Euro version in white ?

Rome Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:23 pm

Version 2, glass, on both blinkers of my August 21, 1963 (early '64 model year) Ghia Coupe, chassis# 5 720 xxx.

GHIA Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:11 pm

Thank you Rome



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