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Corwyn Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:45 pm

Does anyone carry one of these on their van? What did you use for a carrier? Front or back?

https://www.v1moto.com/--xInventoryDetail?id=8719133

campism Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:59 pm

There's a pretty well known Westy photo with one on the front bumper. Someone is bound to have it.

Or maybe it's a Mini-Trail. Whatever.

Found it.


Google turns up a lot of pics of various machines on the front or the back, many with Samba credits. Expect enough responses to answer your questions.

Timwhy Mon Jul 13, 2020 5:32 pm

campism wrote:
maybe it's a Mini-Trail. Whatever.

Found it.



I think that one is a 70cc not the 50cc. I have a CT-90 that I bought to take camping but it sits in the shed after all these years.

Corwyn Mon Jul 13, 2020 5:35 pm

That's a CT70. A bit bigger. I have a unique mount that Lucas made, but I'm not sure it will work for the Z50. I'm looking for ideas . . .

vanagonjr Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:43 pm

Timwhy wrote:
I think that one is a 70cc not the 50cc. I have a CT-90 that I bought to take camping but it sits in the shed after all these years.

I have a Honda Trail 110 sitting 1.5 years...
Actually, bought for my wife as a Christmas gift...

Zeitgeist 13 Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:19 pm

I can't wait for Alika to chime in. I sent him a Z50 purchased here and boxed up for shipment to HI. He rebuilt it into a really really nice rig, and I assume has been transporting it on/in his Vanagons.

izzydog Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:36 pm

Corwyn wrote: I'm not sure it will work for the Z50.

The wheelbase on a new Monkey is 47" and the wheelbase on a CT70 is 41", so the Monkey is bigger. What size is the "unique mount" you have?

RainierSyncro Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:36 pm

I bought a 2020 Monkey in blue last year and love it, but I transport it inside the van with a custom ramp that attaches to my rock sliders on my Syncro. Here's a front mounted Honda seen at the local meet-up last year. I think he said that he lifted the front up first and then picked up the back to set it in. Not sure how it make it work with a heavy Monkey or know what to do with the handlebars.


jimf909 Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:18 pm

I love ICE two wheelers, but don't e-bikes outperform these on every reasonable metric? 1/3 the weight or less, equal performance, vastly more comfortable for any distance and 10x less annoying in camp. What's not to love?

Ahh...donuts... :lol:

ALIKA T3 Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:35 am

Zeitgeist 13 wrote: I can't wait for Alika to chime in. I sent him a Z50 purchased here and boxed up for shipment to HI. He rebuilt it into a really really nice rig, and I assume has been transporting it on/in his Vanagons.

Aloha Casey and Sambanistas 8)

The Z50 I have fits inside the van, I just put cushion for the rear bench to protect the rear fender, the front wheel goes between the front seats, barely. Another cushion on the Kitchen cabinet and a ratchet strap to the rear table foot. Easy breezy, compact 140CC! Braaaap!!

As a side note, I acquired a Honda SS50, the first generation style. Building it slowly into a 117cc stroker, it has 17" wheels rather than the 8" of the Z50.
The front fork and dual cam drum hub will be from various parts from CB175 and CB160, som CL stuff too. Should be neat and period correct, another sleeper :)

There are good forums for these bikes, Planete Minis is the one I'm at, here's the SS50 build for those interested, the first pic is the Z50 ;)

https://www.planetminis.com/threads/1973-honda-ss50-honda-67.253133/

Cheers!

khughes Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:46 pm

I'd rather carry a Trunk Monkey YMMV.

WestyWanter Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:52 pm

I love how people who own vanagons also own an old honda trail, I just redid a ct 70 and bought a rear hitch rack, it seems to sit out far enough that i could get a rear tire carrier. will post photos later.

shagginwagon83 Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:00 pm

https://www.instagram.com/p/BmR49xQHwYm/

1988M5 Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:14 pm

Iím the production supervisor at Zero Motorcycles (Electric motorcycle manufacturer) and would love to sell everyone here our products but our lightest bike is full sized and 250lbs. I think a unique solution to Vanagon users would be a small battery powered e-bike/scooter that doubles as a generator carrier that the rider could engage once the sound isnít an issue and give unlimited range. Everything in a relative tiny camper should serve at least two purposes. Mini toad plus secure exterior generator carrier under 100lbs. Win-win..

BK

fxr Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:21 pm

1988M5 wrote: Iím the production supervisor at Zero Motorcycles (Electric motorcycle manufacturer) and would love to sell everyone here our products but our lightest bike is full sized and 250lbs. I think a unique solution to Vanagon users would be a small battery powered e-bike/scooter that doubles as a generator carrier that the rider could engage once the sound isnít an issue and give unlimited range. Everything in a relative tiny camper should serve at least two purposes. Mini toad plus secure exterior generator carrier under 100lbs. Win-win..

BK
An interesting idea - so a hybrid that has full owner control over who does what and with which and to whom (to re-purpose the last line of an ancient non-pc limerick ;) ). It wouldn't have to be a big generator - and although I normally *hate* generators at campsites, I'm sure a decently quiet one could be produced. :)

1988M5 Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:29 pm

Iím envisioning a EGO-II with a Honda EU-1000 on the foot deck.

BK

ALIKA T3 Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:40 pm

khughes wrote: I'd rather carry a Trunk Monkey YMMV.

Oh man, having grown up outside of the US, I just heard about it recently, I loved it :lol: :lol:

veloandy Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:17 pm

RMW Twin Peaks bumper with integrated hitch + a cycle carrier from Harbor Freight makes carrying my Honda CT 90 easy:



The wheelbase of the bike is too short to secure the rear wheel with the pins in the carrier, hence the webbing and carabiner on the rear wheel (you kind of have to zoom in to see it). I expect a monkey has an even shorter wheelbase.

pdm777 Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:57 pm

I was considering a motorbike/scooter.

Then I looked at modern full-suspension ebikes.
- no license
- no insurance
- can ride nearly anywhere a bike can (without hassle)
- Much Lighter !
- Lots of Power ( Bafang Ultra 1000W motor )
- nearly silent

veloandy Thu Jul 16, 2020 5:07 pm

Freaking sweet bike, pdm777!

Iím pretty sure (at least here in CO), any e-bike with > 750W is either in a legal black hole or is licensed (& insured and stuff) like a motorcycle: https://cpw.state.co.us/thingstodo/Pages/E-Bike-Rules.aspx

Be sure to check your local regs to make sure you donít end up with something not legal to operate on trails and/or the road. At least with internal combustion motorcycles (and plain, old bicycles) theyíve been around long enough for all jurisdictions to sort out consistent legalities and regulations.

(BTW I rode my buddyís electric Zero Motorcycle in 2013 and it was AMAZING! I still dream about maybe one day getting a proper electric bike!)



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