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Bobnotch Sat May 08, 2021 1:23 pm

BSQUARE wrote: Bobnotch wrote: Mike Fisher wrote: You could make money selling new plastic squareback rear seatback grab handles!

Seat belt material works so much better for that Mike. It folds flat, and doesn't get brittle in the sun.

I like to use a section from a 1" tie-down strap. Same idea as yours, just a little narrower.

I used the seat belt material on my old 70 Square after I broke a new OE plastic handle that lasted 3 days. The seat belt is still in place a little over 20 years later. I did the same thing on my old 69 Square too. As far as I know, it's still holding up (sold it back to the guy I bought it from).

squaretobehip Sat May 08, 2021 7:27 pm

Ceckert64 wrote: For the Squareback seat handle, ISP west has them for sale, but they are NOS.

Not anymore. :cry: We had so many boxes...never thought they'd all go.

Hopefully we can make 'em soon. 8)

really-whale Sun May 09, 2021 4:28 am

I love the idea of recreating important parts in CAD. There are some great reproduction parts available (thanks ISP West!) but sometimes it's fun to make your own also.

Bobnotch wrote: BSQUARE wrote: Bobnotch wrote: Mike Fisher wrote: You could make money selling new plastic squareback rear seatback grab handles!

Seat belt material works so much better for that Mike. It folds flat, and doesn't get brittle in the sun.

I like to use a section from a 1" tie-down strap. Same idea as yours, just a little narrower.

I used the seat belt material on my old 70 Square after I broke a new OE plastic handle that lasted 3 days. The seat belt is still in place a little over 20 years later. I did the same thing on my old 69 Square too. As far as I know, it's still holding up (sold it back to the guy I bought it from).

I had the same problem with my new OE handle.. Was thinking that as an alternative suppliers for amps or PA equipment could have a handle that suits but have yet to find one that's right. It might be cool to have a 3d printed piece to fit over a piece of folded webbing. Strength and a ~period correct look all in one?

Clatter Sun May 09, 2021 7:19 am

VWporscheGT3 wrote: Clatter wrote: Seriously,
I was just up in the attic looking for other stuff and found those three plastic heater duct pieces that go up under the dash.
These being from the beginning until 71 or so..

If you’re into doing this,
I’ll send you the set of three.

They are going to be pretty tricky with hollow and curves and all.

These are getting precious, so be for real..

You game?

Im totally game... if im who you are talking to .

Here you go, found 'em..

Know that even guys who have a bunch of stuff are running out of nice examples of these to sell
The sun just kills 'em..




Like's been said already, these look like a real challenge.
Not that I'm doubting, but how on earth do you do something like this?
Gets scanned for the outside dimensions, and then you specify wall thickness in the software?

:?:

Max Welton Sun May 09, 2021 7:36 am

It's just that upper part that gets killed by the sun, right? Why not make just the upper flange that could be bonded to the original part? We do this to metal parts all the time. Why not plastic?

Max

Mike Fisher Sun May 09, 2021 7:51 am

I never/ever pull on my OG handle, so it's still in good shape.

Bobnotch Sun May 09, 2021 1:32 pm

Max Welton wrote: It's just that upper part that gets killed by the sun, right? Why not make just the upper flange that could be bonded to the original part? We do this to metal parts all the time. Why not plastic?

Max

That sounds like a good idea. I know the tops of mine are a little crispy thanks to the Texas sun. The rest of the parts are pretty much like new.

VWporscheGT3 Mon May 10, 2021 8:00 am

Clatter wrote: VWporscheGT3 wrote: Clatter wrote: Seriously,
I was just up in the attic looking for other stuff and found those three plastic heater duct pieces that go up under the dash.
These being from the beginning until 71 or so..

If you’re into doing this,
I’ll send you the set of three.

They are going to be pretty tricky with hollow and curves and all.

These are getting precious, so be for real..

You game?

Im totally game... if im who you are talking to .

Here you go, found 'em..

Know that even guys who have a bunch of stuff are running out of nice examples of these to sell
The sun just kills 'em..




Like's been said already, these look like a real challenge.
Not that I'm doubting, but how on earth do you do something like this?
Gets scanned for the outside dimensions, and then you specify wall thickness in the software?

:?:

we have 2 different 3d scanners , you can essentially use the one as a template to create a template to then build the model from (feels like cheating). or the other i would cap off both ends as smoothly as possible and then scan in with some reference points first and then do the full scan , then import it in to solidworks, essentially create a solid first then "shell" it and modify from there. I will likely try the latter first.

the problem from there is finding someone who would be will to invest in the injection molding tooling to then create the new pieces. that kind of tooling can be anywhere from 8-35K . 3d printing would work only (with my limited experience in 3d printing) if you create a inaccurate flanged version that would attach by sandwhich-ing it to the dash sheet metal with some screw bosses added.

I'd be doing this over my lunches so i wouldn't be an issue with work.

Max Welton Tue May 11, 2021 11:18 am

Here's another candidate. These plastic bits that go in the fresh-air boxes and live right under the cowl vents in the sun.



Max

really-whale Tue May 11, 2021 2:18 pm

Max Welton wrote: Here's another candidate. These plastic bits that go in the fresh-air boxes and live right under the cowl vents in the sun.



Max

Funny you mention it, I made some files of these for laser cutting. I'll see if I can find them.

really-whale Tue May 11, 2021 2:24 pm







These are the replacements I came up with - I did a couple of versions, one was an inner and outer ring (shown) that allows you to press some aluminium flyscreen between and glue in. And another is a one piece design with slots cut in. The slots are easier to deal with bit laser cutting takes a little longer so a cutting service would charge a little more..

Edit: I had a look and found these files - I have them in EPS and DXF formats, if anyone would like them I would be happy to send them your way.

VWporscheGT3 Wed May 12, 2021 7:23 pm

Steve , just received the parts , thanks , I'll get these scanned and get these scanned and returned as soon as I can. I will try to print up a first article of each to see if basic materials may work.

I'm also going to attempt the sunroof cable covers . Anyway I'll let you guys know how it goes

Clatter Thu May 13, 2021 7:35 am

VWporscheGT3 wrote: Steve , just received the parts , thanks , I'll get these scanned and get these scanned and returned as soon as I can. I will try to print up a first article of each to see if basic materials may work.

I'm also going to attempt the sunroof cable covers . Anyway I'll let you guys know how it goes

Nice.

You can keep that stuff..

VWporscheGT3 Fri May 14, 2021 3:24 pm

well mainly cause i was stuck on phones all day... was playin around in solid works with a cable guide... here is was we have so far.. the dash pieces i should have an oportunity to mess around with next week

Chickensoup Sat May 15, 2021 5:03 pm

I saw a few people mention using PLA as finished products. Most PLA's will become brittle and crack under sunlight. Just a tip.

Trekker182 Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:04 am

That is just brilliant now a couple of questions. 1. is the flap identical for both sides? 2. Can you give any details for the deflector plate that sits along side the flap and directs the hot air up to the windscreen?

Don

Bobnotch Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:57 am

Trekker182 wrote: That is just brilliant now a couple of questions. 1. is the flap identical for both sides? 2. Can you give any details for the deflector plate that sits along side the flap and directs the hot air up to the windscreen?

Don

Yes, the flap metal is the same. It's which side you put the control cable clip on that makes it right or left.



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