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Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:34 pm

Howdy, we live on a dead end dirt road with no cable. Not interested in sattelites. What can we do increase our band width from our DSL?

Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:06 pm

Ok. Start at the point where the phone line gets to the outside of your house. Look at ANY union or connection and check for dirt or corrosion. Use caution, the hone line Carrie’s 54 VAC which jumps to 120 VAC when the phone rings. Once the outside connections are done move into the house. Check every jack. You can remove any phone jack that isn’t in use from the distribution block where the line enters the house. Finally place the DSL router as close to the point where the phone line enters the home…. If you can. Best I can offer. Good luck and Happy Holidays!

Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:07 pm

Not much.

But there are some obscure settings in the Windows registry that can optimize handshaking and packet sizes, for a marginal improvement. This helped in dial-up, too, back in the day. Google for them.

Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:14 pm

Unless youve used an acoustical model at 300 baud, and had a bunch of people crowding into your office to see you new 1200 baud moden, it just moot.

Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:00 am

Just want to be able to stream netflix, youtube , hulu excetra , without the circle of death coming on every five minutes and having to reconnect to the internet.

I realize dsl sucks but thats what we got.

A neighbor picked up a Nighthawk ac 1900 ffrom netgear, hooked up after the phone companies router and said it helped, was wondering if any more options available?

My cousin suggested an AT&T hotspot. Would that work?

Sorry, i am such a luddite.

Thank you.

Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:04 am

calvinater wrote:
My cousin suggested an AT&T hotspot. Would that work?

So what cell service do you get there?

Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:28 am

Starlink. I had shit service on twisted pair ADSL at the end of a run. was paying $65 for an average of 3Mb service. I have starlink, $99 a month and average about 90mb now. It is getting faster as we move towards the production system with all the sats on orbit. Right now its only a partial constellation. Once the full thing is deployed well be Gig speed without wires.

Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:30 am

KTPhil wrote: calvinater wrote:
My cousin suggested an AT&T hotspot. Would that work?

So what cell service do you get there?

AT&T

Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:47 am

calvinater wrote: KTPhil wrote: calvinater wrote:
My cousin suggested an AT&T hotspot. Would that work?

So what cell service do you get there?

AT&T

Look into the cost of a unlimited data plan and hot-spotting. It varies, and might be feasible, or too expensive.

Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:04 pm

So are you asking about increasing bandwidth TO the house.....or connectivity IN the house via wireless?

Meaning...if you are connected via wire and your stuff drops off due to lack of bandwidth....I don't know.

But if its a wireless problem....I was having my wireless anywhere in my house drop off anytime any of the neighbors within 200 feet ...or any of their wireless hubs or devices logged on. It would "blip" anytime anyone logged onto their wireless system.

I thought it was lack of band width...but it was actually signal stepping n each other. So...I downloaded a "widget"...free....That analyzes all wireless signals around you and shows the map...shows what the names of accounts are....shows what channel, power bandwidth, whether its 2.8 or 5 ghz....graphs everything....can also scan you entire house and show every wireless integrated appliance or system from phones to the blue tooth in my car....and shows what they pull from the system.

Its called Netspot.
https://www.netspotapp.com/features.html?gclid=Cj0...uhEALw_wcB

What it showed is NOT overlap and stepping on each other so much...but just a poor technology, low power router that was only two years old.

See.....there are routers that use multiple connectivity systems. There are several classification standards (B, G, N, AC etc,). Most common cheap ones at home are N type that make them easier to set up the "handshake" on more types of devices. They are kind of idiot proof.

They jump back and forth between 2.8 and 5.0 ghz.....but settle on whichever it finds is most prevalent or easiest. Low tech.

Here is some basic info.
https://homenetworkadmin.com/wireless-b-vs-g-vs-n-vs-ac-difference/

The Netspot app found that our Netgear router was an N type. When it detects mostly Apple phone products in the house...it would switch to 5.0 ghz...and they work fine...but would just leave 2.8 ghz....which goes through walls better.... shut off. That was affecting my Windows laptop and desktop.

So....
just bought a Netgear AX-5 last month at Best buy.....fucking DAMN.....spent five minutes setting it up.....wireless connectivity became lightning fast anywhere in the house out to the end of the driveway.

Download that Netspot widget for free...and see what you have going on. Ray

Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:19 pm

We have local phone company suppling our internet. comes in on 2 wires. If we lived closer to the CO= company office. The farther you are the weaker or slower the speed. If you are paying for a certain down and up speed and are not getting it. Contact them and have them clean up your 2 wires from the CO to your house. Many bridge taps (phone company lingo) could be your problem. It would be on there side and not the house side.

Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:43 pm

Netspot has one out of five stars on the apple app store, and says you needs a $650 piece of hardware to use it!

Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:46 pm

I'd shop around all the potential providers, depending on how long that "dirt road" is they may be willing to install lines, or equipment if you sign up for a few years of service. Just like the "free" phone that comes with most contracts they want to get you hooked and hope you don't notice when the contract expires and the rates jump. Especially if they can scoop a customer from another service, but sometime the mere threat of changing providers made to your current one may unlock all sorts of ways they suddenly have to help you. I had a TV cable ran from the road 1/4 mile away for free that way, same with a natural gas line.
But do make sure there's an out clause if the promised performance doesn't actually happen once it's installed, negotiate that in writing ahead of time, preferably for free.

The only downside to all this is the hours you may spend on hold, you'll have some of that stupid hold music stuck in your head for weeks afterwards, I wish I could charge my provider back for the time lost trying to get them to fix something.

Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:25 pm

gt1953 wrote: Contact them and have them clean up your 2 wires from the CO to your house. Many bridge taps (phone company lingo) could be your problem. It would be on there side and not the house side.

They can find these by injecting a signal from one end of the wire, and the tester indicates how many feet to the "hiccup" from a nick or other wiring defect. Pretty nifty!

Often they just choose a different pair in the bundle that hasn't been used before, and has a clean signal with no reflections except from the end of the wire. Back when I had dial-up in a 30 year old neighborhood, that's what they did. Same for DSL, I expect.

And again, see if a techie with them can suggest registry changes that can make a big difference (packet size, for example). It's not as scary as it sounds. Just changing numbers in a file. Knowing which user, parameters and what numbers is the trick, but the web may give you suggestions. Do this after they make changes to optimize it for the connection you have.

Fri Dec 31, 2021 1:07 pm

I would try using your phone as a hotspot for now. DSL seldom goes above 5 Mbps at this point. That's obviously a downfall of using a phone system.

You can get cellular routers/modems from mobile providers. Cradlepoint makes a nice product that is plug and play.

If you choose to go that route and use that for your home solution and have wired items in your home by chance, I would look into replacing the wiring too. I imagine that it's using older versions of CAT cabling.

Fri Mar 11, 2022 6:06 am

We have Verizon Hot spot,, fast, but it slows down once we hit 15GB , They found out I'm a Veteran so we get unlimited data :D we also live on a Deadend Dirt road :D would not have it any other way :lol:

Fri Mar 11, 2022 6:36 am

madmike wrote: We have Verizon Hot spot,, fast, but it slows down once we hit 15GB , They found out I'm a Veteran so we get unlimited data :D we also live on a Deadend Dirt road :D would not have it any other way :lol:

It’s the Dd214 protocol at work

Sat Mar 12, 2022 3:22 am

:lol: