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Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:08 pm

EVfun wrote: zerotofifty wrote: EVfun wrote: zerotofifty wrote: Me, I am a degreed scientist...
Please link us to the your published papers as a degreed scientist. I would like to read about the work you have done.

Much of my work involves trade secrets, sorry. :cry:
I suspect much of your work involves bull shit. :roll:

No, the real deal is... micromachined sensors, bioactive coatings, planar optical devices, semiconductors, thin films process development, microgravity life science experiments, explosive welding, to name a few.

No bullshit.

and I seriously doubt you will like to read about what I have done, you are simply trolling to deflect from the issue at hand. :lol:

Sat Feb 01, 2025 10:35 pm

today's definition for my electric vehicles being bad.
l had a stroppy telsa driving twat creep up behind me, walking the the road, where there's no sidewalk, and l couldn't cross the street due to the ammount of traffic coming the other way, l was on the phone, and didn't hear this piece of electric nastyness creep up on me, until he started using his horn, as l apparently was in his way.
if he'd have been driving a real car, l would have heard him coming, and gotten out of his way.
phuck him and his electric BS

Sat Feb 01, 2025 11:25 pm

markswagen wrote: today's definition for my electric vehicles being bad.
l had a stroppy telsa driving twat creep up behind me, walking the the road, where there's no sidewalk, and l couldn't cross the street due to the ammount of traffic coming the other way, l was on the phone, and didn't hear this piece of electric nastyness creep up on me, until he started using his horn, as l apparently was in his way.
if he'd have been driving a real car, l would have heard him coming, and gotten out of his way.
phuck him and his electric BS

That is a real problem, specially in parking lots where cars and pedestrians freely mix. The audial clue is missing with electric cars.

Sat Feb 01, 2025 11:54 pm

in the olden days when l used faceache, l used to find groups to see how long it would take, to get thrown out of.
one group was an EV car group, l suggested that EV cars should have to make a noise while in motion, be it forward or reverse, this was 10 + years ago.
l suggested that perhaps like cell phones, the user could pick the noise, steam train, formula one car, lambo V10, pick your noise.
l was swiftly banned from the group, because my input was detrimental to the on going sanity of the group.
l think in europe EV cars now have to make a noise by law.
zerotofifty wrote:

That is a real problem, specially in parking lots where cars and pedestrians freely mix. The audial clue is missing with electric cars.

Sun Feb 02, 2025 12:17 am

markswagen wrote: today's definition for my electric vehicles being bad.
l had a stroppy telsa driving twat creep up behind me, walking the the road, where there's no sidewalk, and l couldn't cross the street due to the ammount of traffic coming the other way, l was on the phone, and didn't hear this piece of electric nastyness creep up on me, until he started using his horn, as l apparently was in his way.
if he'd have been driving a real car, l would have heard him coming, and gotten out of his way.
phuck him and his electric BS
Over time that particular problem should fade away. Low speed noise has been a requirement for US sold EVs since 2020. They have to make an audible alert when moving forward or in reverse up to 30 kph (18.6 mph). Since I can hear the motor inverter screech from most every EV I didn't realize it was issue. Usually I continue to hear the inverter racket even at driving speeds and sometimes even identify the EV or hybrid family by sound alone.

Sun Feb 02, 2025 7:41 am

zerotofifty wrote: EVfun wrote: zerotofifty wrote: Me, I am a degreed scientist...
Please link us to the your published papers as a degreed scientist. I would like to read about the work you have done.

Much of my work involves trade secrets, sorry. :cry:

zerotofifty, as a man of science where do you think I stand on the following. EV cars, EV car mandates by 2035, Global warming, and environmental issues that I feel are important?

Sun Feb 02, 2025 7:45 am

zerotofifty wrote:
No, the real deal is... micromachined sensors, bioactive coatings, planar optical devices, semiconductors, thin films process development, microgravity life science experiments, explosive welding, to name a few.

Interesting.
Is she familiar with Tosoh USA of Forge Biologics?
They are just around the corner from us.

It is staggering the amount of tech companies that are already here in central Ohio or are on the way.

Intel if they can survive is building a 2.5 million sq. ft. chip plant. Originally slated to open this year but pushed to 2028. Most of the initial chips will be for AI chips, military chips, and other advanced semiconductor processors. The plant will also serve as a foundry to make chips for other companies.

LG Energy Solution-Honda 2 million sq. ft. EV battery plant is expected to begin mass production of lithium-ion batteries in late 2025.

Anduril Industries is building a new 5 million sq. ft. manufacturing facility called Arsenal-1. The facility will produce autonomous weapons systems for the United States and its allies.

Meta is expanding its data center campus in New Albany The expansion is expected to be completed in 2028 and will be an additional 1 million sq. ft.
The rumors are strong that they they are looking at this area as their new headquarters.

In addition we have a great EV infrastructure in place to support the influx.
I will say not everyone is happy with the crazy amount of growth we are experiencing.
We are now called the "Silicone Heartland"
Lot's of generational family farms are being swallowed up :cry:

Sun Feb 02, 2025 9:29 am

Xevin wrote: zerotofifty wrote: EVfun wrote: zerotofifty wrote: Me, I am a degreed scientist...
Please link us to the your published papers as a degreed scientist. I would like to read about the work you have done.

Much of my work involves trade secrets, sorry. :cry:

zerotofifty, as a man of science where do you think I stand on the following. EV cars, EV car mandates by 2035, Global warming, and environmental issues that I feel are important?

That is perhaps better answered by the global warmest poster who's girlfriend is the scientist. I deal with facts, not your "feelings"

Sun Feb 02, 2025 9:34 am

kingkarmann wrote: zerotofifty wrote:
No, the real deal is... micromachined sensors, bioactive coatings, planar optical devices, semiconductors, thin films process development, microgravity life science experiments, explosive welding, to name a few.

Interesting.
Is she familiar with Tosoh USA of Forge Biologics?
They are just around the corner from us.

It is staggering the amount of tech companies that are already here in central Ohio or are on the way.

Intel if they can survive is building a 2.5 million sq. ft. chip plant. Originally slated to open this year but pushed to 2028. Most of the initial chips will be for AI chips, military chips, and other advanced semiconductor processors. The plant will also serve as a foundry to make chips for other companies.

LG Energy Solution-Honda 2 million sq. ft. EV battery plant is expected to begin mass production of lithium-ion batteries in late 2025.

Anduril Industries is building a new 5 million sq. ft. manufacturing facility called Arsenal-1. The facility will produce autonomous weapons systems for the United States and its allies.

Meta is expanding its data center campus in New Albany The expansion is expected to be completed in 2028 and will be an additional 1 million sq. ft.
The rumors are strong that they they are looking at this area as their new headquarters.

In addition we have a great EV infrastructure in place to support the influx.
I will say not everyone is happy with the crazy amount of growth we are experiencing.
We are now called the "Silicone Heartland"
Lot's of generational family farms are being swallowed up :cry:

I certainly do not want to live near a lithium battery factory.

What does silicone have to do with these companies you listed?

Sun Feb 02, 2025 9:52 am

[quote="zerotofifty"] kingkarmann wrote: zerotofifty wrote:
No, the real deal is... micromachined sensors, bioactive coatings, planar optical devices, semiconductors, thin films process development, microgravity life science experiments, explosive welding, to name a few.

Interesting.
Is she familiar with Tosoh USA of Forge Biologics?
They are just around the corner from us.

What does silicone have to do with these companies you listed?
Sorry, I was wondering if your gf was familiar with Tosoh or Forge based on the science she is involved in.

Sun Feb 02, 2025 10:09 am

markswagen wrote: creep up behind me, walking the the road, where there's no sidewalk, and l couldn't cross the street due to the ammount of traffic coming the other way, l was on the phone

trying to win a Darwin award I see.

Sorry, ear pods/headphones/on the phone in areas that 100% require your attention shouldn't be in use no matter what.

It's that sort of bullshit that has forced the "city safety" and "pedestrian crumple zones' in new cars to become a thing. All those systems add cost and complexity to the consumer only to protect those too stupid to pay attention to their surroundings

Sun Feb 02, 2025 10:39 am

kingkarmann wrote: zerotofifty wrote:
No, the real deal is... micromachined sensors, bioactive coatings, planar optical devices, semiconductors, thin films process development, microgravity life science experiments, explosive welding, to name a few.

Interesting.
Is she familiar with Tosoh USA of Forge Biologics?
They are just around the corner from us.

It is staggering the amount of tech companies that are already here in central Ohio or are on the way.

Intel if they can survive is building a 2.5 million sq. ft. chip plant. Originally slated to open this year but pushed to 2028. Most of the initial chips will be for AI chips, military chips, and other advanced semiconductor processors. The plant will also serve as a foundry to make chips for other companies.

LG Energy Solution-Honda 2 million sq. ft. EV battery plant is expected to begin mass production of lithium-ion batteries in late 2025.

Anduril Industries is building a new 5 million sq. ft. manufacturing facility called Arsenal-1. The facility will produce autonomous weapons systems for the United States and its allies.

Meta is expanding its data center campus in New Albany The expansion is expected to be completed in 2028 and will be an additional 1 million sq. ft.
The rumors are strong that they they are looking at this area as their new headquarters.

In addition we have a great EV infrastructure in place to support the influx.
I will say not everyone is happy with the crazy amount of growth we are experiencing.
We are now called the "Silicone Heartland"
Lot's of generational family farms are being swallowed up :cry:

A couple of notes:

The Intel plant is not slated for first production before 2030. And the vast majority of what comes out finished day one will be non functional for a year of two. This is about right for a chip facility. They take average five years to build and 2-3 years to get the facility clean enough for viable chips.

The LG/Honda plant has been paused as of August 2024. Too much cost and not enough demand.

The anduril plant still seems to be on track. It remains to be seen....with the almost weekly scale and speed of advancement in actual combat.....whether their "tech" survives.

The Meta data center expansion.....is good. It's eventually scale will depend on available power and cost of it.

Ray

Sun Feb 02, 2025 10:56 am

no ear pods, old fashioned, phone up in position next to ear, l'd have heard an ICE
skills@eurocarsplus wrote:
It's that sort of bullshit that has forced the "city safety" and "pedestrian crumple zones' in new cars to become a thing. All those systems add cost and complexity to the consumer only to protect those too stupid to pay attention to their surroundings

Sun Feb 02, 2025 10:59 am

kingkarmann wrote: In other EV news good or bad....

2016 Volkswagen e-Golf SEL Premium
I had never heard of an "e-Golf" 8)
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2016-volkswagen-...gn_2648439

Well, it's not really generating much excitement.
The commentary is interesting.
I wonder what a new battery pack would set me back?

Sun Feb 02, 2025 11:09 am

[quote="kingkarmann"] zerotofifty wrote: kingkarmann wrote: zerotofifty wrote:
No, the real deal is... micromachined sensors, bioactive coatings, planar optical devices, semiconductors, thin films process development, microgravity life science experiments, explosive welding, to name a few.

Interesting.
Is she familiar with Tosoh USA of Forge Biologics?
They are just around the corner from us.

What does silicone have to do with these companies you listed?
Sorry, I was wondering if your gf was familiar with Tosoh or Forge based on the science she is involved in.

I believe you is asking the wrong person, it was not I who claimed a scientist girlfriend.

Silicone Heartland???? What is that?

Sun Feb 02, 2025 11:49 am

[quote="zerotofifty"] kingkarmann wrote: zerotofifty wrote: kingkarmann wrote: zerotofifty wrote:
No, the real deal is... micromachined sensors, bioactive coatings, planar optical devices, semiconductors, thin films process development, microgravity life science experiments, explosive welding, to name a few.

Interesting.
Is she familiar with Tosoh USA of Forge Biologics?
They are just around the corner from us.

What does silicone have to do with these companies you listed?
Sorry, I was wondering if your gf was familiar with Tosoh or Forge based on the science she is involved in.

I believe you is asking the wrong person, it was not I who claimed a scientist girlfriend.

Silicone Heartland???? What is that?

Sorry, as I age I finf it more difficult to follow the topics :oops:
Silicone Heartlland is a regional designation referring to the incoming chip plant and other tech industries in and around Central Ohio.
This book helps explain.
Silicone Heartland
Transforming the Midwest from Rust Belt to Tech Belt
https://www.google.com/search?q=silicon+heartland&...oHegQIMBAB

Sun Feb 02, 2025 12:38 pm

[quote="kingkarmann"] zerotofifty wrote: kingkarmann wrote: zerotofifty wrote: kingkarmann wrote: zerotofifty wrote:
No, the real deal is... micromachined sensors, bioactive coatings, planar optical devices, semiconductors, thin films process development, microgravity life science experiments, explosive welding, to name a few.

Interesting.
Is she familiar with Tosoh USA of Forge Biologics?
They are just around the corner from us.

What does silicone have to do with these companies you listed?
Sorry, I was wondering if your gf was familiar with Tosoh or Forge based on the science she is involved in.

I believe you is asking the wrong person, it was not I who claimed a scientist girlfriend.

Silicone Heartland???? What is that?

Sorry, as I age I finf it more difficult to follow the topics :oops:
Silicone Heartlland is a regional designation referring to the incoming chip plant and other tech industries in and around Central Ohio.
This book helps explain.
Silicone Heartland
Transforming the Midwest from Rust Belt to Tech Belt
https://www.google.com/search?q=silicon+heartland&...oHegQIMBAB

No problem.

By the way, it is silicon rather than silicone that is used in most of the microchips. Silicon is the element, it is refined to extremely high purity, then oft doped with tiny amounts of other elements to create the wafers on which the chips are built It is a silvery hard material in pure form at room temperature It is considered a semiconductor material, verse an insulator or conduction. Silicon dioxide is a nice insulator, and the fact it can be readily grown selectively on the semiconductor silicon have made it an great material for computer chips. Heating the silicon to cherry red in presence of oxygen(dry), or steam (wet)causes the silicon dioxide to grown on the silicon wafer. Use of steam is preferred for thick layers, such as field oxides, or diffusion barriers as the grown rate is much higher than that of the use of oxygen, but oxygen is used for thinner layers such as gate oxides
But even steam has its growth rate limitations, the thicker the layer, the slower the growth rate gets. 1 micron can be grown in a hours, 20 microns can take a month in steam.

here is a handy calculator for finding how long at what temperature to grow an oxide film on silicon. the 111, 100 references the crystal orientation of the silicon wafer. the growth rate differences have to do with the number of surface or interface atoms exposed for oxidation for different crystals orientations of the silicon.

Some fun info I think, enjoy

https://cleanroom.groups.et.byu.net/OxideTimeCalc.phtml

We had to develop a specialised steam generator for the month long 20 micron process, This was for planar optical devices. One of the trade secrets. For computer chips we did much thinner oxides, tens of Angstroms to 0.8 microm ( 8000 Angstroms)

You can also deposit Silicon dioxide rather than grow it. that is using often SiH4, (Silane) and O2 at elevated temperatures or at cooler temperatures using a plasma, these are done at very low pressures for the most part, but can be done at atmospheric pressure too.
small amounts of boron or phosphorous can be added to these deposited layers of Silicon dioxide to enhance step coverage over topography on the wafers. Diborane, and Phosphine are often the source gasses used for this. these gases along with Silane are pyrophoric (spontaneously combust in air) and the Phosphine and Diborane are pretty toxic.

Silicone as opposed to elemental silicon is perhaps most commonly known for it being a type rubber, or adhesive, or sealant or greases / oils, or used in boob implants. Silicone is a compound, not a pure element.

Wiki has a nice write up here...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicone

Sun Feb 02, 2025 1:10 pm

zerotofifty wrote:
By the way, it is silicon rather than silicone that is used in most of the microchips.

Oops, I'm a boob or rather.....silicone is for boobs :lol:

Sun Feb 02, 2025 1:21 pm

kingkarmann wrote: zerotofifty wrote:
By the way, it is silicon rather than silicone that is used in most of the microchips.

Oops, I'm a boob or rather.....silicone is for boobs :lol:

That's ok, if you're a silicone boob, you can always bounce back. :wink:

Sun Feb 02, 2025 1:23 pm

i like b00bs