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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 6:26 pm    Post subject: End play opinions? (video) Reply with quote


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For some reason, I never could see any end play at all before, no matter how much I pulled and pushed on the crank pulley. Now I suddenly do? It's hard to tell how much but I'd guess somewhere in the range of 1/32" to 1/16"?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 6:39 pm    Post subject: Re: End play opinions? (video) Reply with quote

The rule is:
If you can see it, it's bad.
If you only feel it, it's ok.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 7:25 pm    Post subject: Re: End play opinions? (video) Reply with quote

Glenn wrote:
The rule is:
If you can see it, it's bad.
If you only feel it, it's ok.


It's a highly neglected 40HP (1965 serial block) in a baja that wasn't being filtered properly at all in the desert from a past owner. The oil strainer was VERY sledged, like it hasn't been dropped in 20+ years. I put in 15w40 and a new strainer, and it seems to run ok. Burns & leaks some though. Not sure if it's worth trying to save? 40HP cases (in need of machining) aren't very expensive. I'm nomadic and have to leave here in about 2 months, dragging the car behind my RV. It's a secondary car I got for a runabout and for light off road use (hence me getting a baja) but paying insurance on a car I can't use at all kind of stinks. It'll be at least Sept or Oct before I could even consider pulling the engine when I have a paved driveway to use, unless I attempt it out here in the desert with plywood on the ground for the floor jack to roll on. Probably not ideal, though.

Maybe I'll just run it, keeping a watch on the end play, and hope for the best.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 7:26 pm    Post subject: Re: End play opinions? (video) Reply with quote

Leave it and drive it till it fails.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 7:30 pm    Post subject: Re: End play opinions? (video) Reply with quote

Glenn wrote:
Leave it and drive it till it fails.


Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I usually come back down this way around early Nov-April 1, and some old guy sells rebuilt 40HP engines for about $1k, but he has awful reviews so ehhh.

I don't care about having the fastest motor or anything, so maybe I can find something reasonable 1200cc-1500cc to replace it later on.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 7:38 pm    Post subject: Re: End play opinions? (video) Reply with quote

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[some old guy sells rebuilt 40HP engines for about $1k, but he has awful reviews so ehhh.

You can't "rebuild" an engine for $1000.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 8:02 pm    Post subject: Re: End play opinions? (video) Reply with quote

Glenn wrote:
You can't "rebuild" an engine for $1000.


The ad:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2275331
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 8:58 am    Post subject: Re: End play opinions? (video) Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:38 am    Post subject: Re: End play opinions? (video) Reply with quote

Zundfolge1432 wrote:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=505284


Yes, I saw that thread.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:26 pm    Post subject: Re: End play opinions? (video) Reply with quote

Cubey wrote:
Glenn wrote:
You can't "rebuild" an engine for $1000.


The ad:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2275331


At the most they might be freshened up with new gaskets. I do not believe you can buy all the parts needed for a full rebuild for that amount.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:28 pm    Post subject: Re: End play opinions? (video) Reply with quote

I took the best measurement I could with feeler gauges between the pulley and case, at the nub that sticks out by the case split that you use for TDC alignment with the pulley. The rough measurement I got was 0.0236 inch. Let's assume it's a bit more and go up to 0.03", that's a hair under 1/32". It could be worse. I've read threads where people saw engines still going with 1/4" play (~8x as bad as mine).
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:43 pm    Post subject: Re: End play opinions? (video) Reply with quote

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Cubey wrote:
Glenn wrote:
You can't "rebuild" an engine for $1000.


The ad:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2275331


At the most they might be freshened up with new gaskets. I do not believe you can buy all the parts needed for a full rebuild for that amount.


Yeah, I figured it might be a "refresh" rather than a "rebuild". Maybe new rings, honed cyls, etc.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 2:56 pm    Post subject: Re: End play opinions? (video) Reply with quote

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I took the best measurement I could with feeler gauges between the pulley and case, at the nub that sticks out by the case split that you use for TDC alignment with the pulley. The rough measurement I got was 0.0236 inch. Let's assume it's a bit more and go up to 0.03", that's a hair under 1/32". It could be worse. I've read threads where people saw engines still going with 1/4" play (~8x as bad as mine).

I would run it the way it is.
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