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lasslo Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:09 pm Post subject: Clear indicator lenses, real glass. What year? |
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I bought these two indicator bulbs last weekend.
Does anyone know what year(s) its for?
I guess it will fit up to 64, but is it from a specific year?
It's real glass, no plastic
_________________ 65 DD klenbus
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lasslo Samba Member
Joined: September 01, 2004 Posts: 206 Location: sweden
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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Come on ghiagurus...
Someone must have info about clear glass front indicators
What year(s)? And where(what contries)? _________________ 65 DD klenbus
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John Moxon Samba Moderator
Joined: March 07, 2004 Posts: 13957 Location: Southampton U.K.
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lasslo Samba Member
Joined: September 01, 2004 Posts: 206 Location: sweden
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info John.
You meen that america had clear glass indicators from 59-64, on all ghias?
Then there must be tousands of them in the states?
Not that rare _________________ 65 DD klenbus
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djway3474 Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2011 Posts: 2582 Location: The Real NDK So Cal
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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I remember reading that VW due to dealer complaints switched to plastic in 61/62 time frame.
Not sure if the clear lense was the same mounting configuration the entire time as 59s switched the holders. |
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Karmann Gheezer Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 429
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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What I see rare are good conditioned turn signal bases for the Ghia years between 59-64. Many times when removing the two thin screws (that holds the chrome ring over the lens), they will get broken off making it a pain to drill and retap. Same when removing the bolts behind the fender that hold the base in place. The stud easily gets broken off again making it difficult to drill and retap for a new stud. Then, if that wasn't bad enough there is the issue with the brass (bulb and wire) connectors. They'll get brittle and break off. Last but not least is finding a nice base that is not pitted or has chrome peeling. Good luck finding a really nice pair of turn signal bases in good useable condition. _________________
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Loren Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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My very original late 59 low light Ghia has the orange plastic lenses. They might have been changed, but I really think they are original to the car. |
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lasslo Samba Member
Joined: September 01, 2004 Posts: 206 Location: sweden
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the help ghiafirends, but it did not get much clearer for me
I'll mount the indicators on my werd 57, I think it will fit perfect there. Nothing else is original on that car anyway _________________ 65 DD klenbus
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parmaynu Samba Member
Joined: March 29, 2004 Posts: 182 Location: Kent, England
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:53 am Post subject: |
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Could someone tell me the thread size for the two securing screws? |
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PFN Samba Member
Joined: September 26, 2013 Posts: 159 Location: Australia
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:11 am Post subject: |
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Here's some info from the parts manual...
But... I bought the correct size screws. They fit like a hotdog down a hallway, as my wife often says, due to years of abuse. I got some similar screws from the local hardware shop and kept going up and up and up in thread diameter until they fit.
If the car could win trophies with the totally wrong mounts for the model year fitted, I feel that I can live with the wrong screws. That's where I end my persuite for pefection at this point. _________________ 1962 1/2 Australian Made Beetle
1961 factory RHD Karmann Ghia
(gone now)
1964 RHD Conversion Karmann Ghia
1956 RHD Beetle
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lasslo Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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I forgot about this thred.
I think that my clear glass indicators are from 1960, someone told me that 60 was the only year with clear indicators, in Sweden. And both beetle and bus have clear indicators 1960.
I like the look anyway.
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tobiasax Samba Member
Joined: May 07, 2004 Posts: 202 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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From what I have seen the Swedish 56-57 ghias had amber front and rear indicators (and also amber brake lights). For 58-59 they swapped to all red tail lights and white front indicators. I base this on color pictures from the 50's. See below for a 58/59 Ghia with clear indicators:
http://lowlightkaizen.blogspot.se/2013/04/karmann-ghia-camping.html _________________ __________________________________________ |
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tobiasax Samba Member
Joined: May 07, 2004 Posts: 202 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:52 am Post subject: |
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Another period picture. In the upper part you see two promotion pictures from the Swedish VW importer. The left one is a 1956 Ghia (amber turn signals in front) and the right one is a 1958/9 convertible (white turn signals in front)
http://lowlightkaizen.blogspot.se/2013/02/det-gula-bromsljuset-visade-sig-bara.html _________________ __________________________________________ |
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bluedot Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:38 am Post subject: |
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My 62 has clear glass lenses. |
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KGCoupe Samba Member
Joined: July 01, 2005 Posts: 3580 Location: Putting the "ill" and "annoy" in Illinois
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:20 am Post subject: |
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What's with that small chrome strip just above the taillight on the top rear area of the rear fender on the 1956 Ghia?
I've never seen one of those before. |
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moogie32 Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2005 Posts: 663 Location: Connecticut
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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My 'Aug '62 Ghia originally came with clear turn signals but when I bought it the PO had switched them to amber. I found some clear glass versions and installed them but don't know whether it originally came with glass or plastic lenses. Here's a picture of it back in 1962 when it was new
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John Moxon Samba Moderator
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KGCoupe Samba Member
Joined: July 01, 2005 Posts: 3580 Location: Putting the "ill" and "annoy" in Illinois
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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 8:28 am Post subject: |
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John Moxon wrote: |
moogie32 wrote: |
My 'Aug '62 Ghia originally came with clear turn signals but when I bought it the PO had switched them to amber. I found some clear glass versions and installed them but don't know whether it originally came with glass or plastic lenses. Here's a picture of it back in 1962 when it was new
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Sorry to wander off topic but I love that picture. |
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How awesome would it be if all original owners were considerate enough to take a similar photo of a collector's car when it was shiny and new?
Question to steer this back on topic (which is a real switch for me!) - I assume that an amber colored bulb would be used with the clear indicator lenses, is that correct? |
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PFN Samba Member
Joined: September 26, 2013 Posts: 159 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:44 am Post subject: |
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Bulbs would have been clear anywhere at the time. Front turn signals in Australia were white in the early 60s. I'd love to assume that we got the clear lenses, but have a look at this piece of Australian publicity from 1961....
_________________ 1962 1/2 Australian Made Beetle
1961 factory RHD Karmann Ghia
(gone now)
1964 RHD Conversion Karmann Ghia
1956 RHD Beetle
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Craigbro Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2021 Posts: 186 Location: Louisiana, USA
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 2:29 pm Post subject: Re: Clear indicator lenses, real glass. What year? |
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Is there any resource for these lenses type/color by year/country?
If not does anyone know the proper lens color for a USA 1964 Ghia Coupe? |
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