Hello! Log in or Register   |  Help  |  Donate  |  Buy Shirts See all banner ads | Advertise on TheSamba.com  
TheSamba.com
 
manual transmission safety switch
Forum Index -> General/Chat Share: Facebook Twitter
Reply to topic
Print View
Quick sort: Show newest posts on top | Show oldest posts on top View previous topic :: View next topic  
This page may contain links to eBay where the site receives compensation.
Author Message
trike newbie
Samba Member


Joined: February 22, 2023
Posts: 9
Location: Minnesota
trike newbie is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:35 am    Post subject: manual transmission safety switch Reply with quote

Does anyone know a part # for the transmission safety switch? Not back-up lite. Took mine apart and replaced the spring, but I don't trust it.

It's on my 75 trike, and I'd like to wire it to a relay to prevent startling in gear.
Thanks.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Erik G
Samba Member


Joined: October 16, 2002
Posts: 13247
Location: Tejas!
Erik G is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:54 am    Post subject: Re: manual transmission safety switch Reply with quote

Never seen one before. If it's original it will have a part number - do you have that? I'm guessing it's aftermarket / some other car and someone added it
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Facebook Instagram Gallery Classifieds Feedback
busdaddy
Samba Member


Joined: February 12, 2004
Posts: 51057
Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
busdaddy is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:27 pm    Post subject: Re: manual transmission safety switch Reply with quote

Maybe the seat belt interlock switch?
_________________
Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.

Please don't PM technical questions, ask your problem in public so everyone can play along. If you think it's too stupid post it here
Stop dead photo links! Post your photos to The Samba Gallery!

Слава Україні!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
trike newbie
Samba Member


Joined: February 22, 2023
Posts: 9
Location: Minnesota
trike newbie is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 2:51 pm    Post subject: Re: manual transmission safety switch Reply with quote

Looking at the wiring diagrams on this site I see the '73 beetle had a transmission safety switch , F15 mounted on the drivers side of transmission by where the shift shaft enters. Can't see any numbers . Not aftermarket .
Gotta be one out there somewhere .
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
mukluk
Samba Member


Joined: October 18, 2012
Posts: 6985
Location: Clyde, TX
mukluk is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:59 pm    Post subject: Re: manual transmission safety switch Reply with quote

Not very cheap, but the only source I can find.
https://www.bugcity.com/shop/shop.lasso?pquery=113941551
_________________
1960 Ragtop w/Semaphores "Inga"
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
trike newbie
Samba Member


Joined: February 22, 2023
Posts: 9
Location: Minnesota
trike newbie is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:17 am    Post subject: Re: manual transmission safety switch Reply with quote

Thanks. That's it! Not gonna pay that for a used switch though. Maybe now people can see what I am looking for.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
raygreenwood
Samba Member


Joined: November 24, 2008
Posts: 21475
Location: Oklahoma City
raygreenwood is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:57 am    Post subject: Re: manual transmission safety switch Reply with quote

trike newbie wrote:
Thanks. That's it! Not gonna pay that for a used switch though. Maybe now people can see what I am looking for.



What you are looking for...part # 113 941 551 is "generally" used as the neutral safety switch in later cars to prevent starting unless you are in neutral. And yes, in many cases it is a link in the seatbelt safety circuit.

Alternately, it is used on "some" cars as a back up light switch. Googling the part number you will see it mostly listed as backup light switch and in many cases the pictures they show show two connecter pins instead of one.

The range of cars this witch went into is pretty wide. It was used in beetles, super beetles and 411 and 412 cars (it was neutral safety switch only in some manual trans 411 and 412).

BUT....if you are just looking for FUNTION and FIT.....the same exact switch but with TWO wire connections was used in the VW 411 and 412 manual transmission and some Rabbits and golfs and the back up light switch.

The way the two wire worked is that it was just the ground breaker or maker in the wire loop. It works just like the single pole switch you are looking for but just connects differently.

Here:
https://www.volkswagen-classic-parts.com/catalog/en_global/part/004941521

https://www.ebay.com/itm/192872270911

Have them measure the thread. Somewhere I compiled a list of where these could be gotten for cheap. Good quality switches. They also fit cars other than VW like Saab. I will see what I can find.

Ray
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
trike newbie
Samba Member


Joined: February 22, 2023
Posts: 9
Location: Minnesota
trike newbie is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 5:35 pm    Post subject: Re: manual transmission safety switch Reply with quote

Thanks. I had tried using the backup switch, but the thread was much too large. So I cut my old switch apart and replaced the spring and contact plate and used JB weld to reassemble. Works fine. I'm just going to have it lite an led indicator for neutral .
I will use your input to search for a spare, thanks .
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
16CVs Premium Member
Samba Member


Joined: February 22, 2004
Posts: 4020
Location: Redwood City, California
16CVs is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 11:05 pm    Post subject: Re: manual transmission safety switch Reply with quote

Put a N/O switch on your clutch pedal that interrupts the starter solenoid wire. It will respire you to press the clutch pedal everytime you start the car.
_________________
1987 Syncro Westfalia Triple knob (bastard)
1989 Syncro Tristar Triple knob "Swedish"
2013 Jetta Hybrid a true "Zwitter"
Samba member # 14980
Call anytime number 650 722 4914 .
Keep Your van running and upkept tastefully for the love of the hobby.
Don't let your van end up in an "abortions" thread.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Gallery Classifieds Feedback
trike newbie
Samba Member


Joined: February 22, 2023
Posts: 9
Location: Minnesota
trike newbie is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:57 am    Post subject: Re: manual transmission safety switch Reply with quote

That would've worked, but I want to start it while standing beside it. Without getting run over.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
nsracing
Samba Member


Joined: November 16, 2003
Posts: 9437
Location: NOVA
nsracing is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 9:49 am    Post subject: Re: manual transmission safety switch Reply with quote

Oh for petesakes - you don't need that switch. Did you lose it?

And you don't need the back up either, for a trike?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
trike newbie
Samba Member


Joined: February 22, 2023
Posts: 9
Location: Minnesota
trike newbie is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:13 am    Post subject: Re: manual transmission safety switch Reply with quote

I like to start it while standing beside it. The light tells me when it's safe.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
CimminoBrothers
Samba Member


Joined: September 28, 2023
Posts: 15
Location: SW Florida
CimminoBrothers is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:42 pm    Post subject: Re: manual transmission safety switch Reply with quote

So I have a 72 Beetle and I have this same switch. It also has the reverse light switch on the other side. Mine has a red/black wire going to it and it runs along side the starter wire all the way up to the fuse box. Where is it suppose to land? On a fuse or dose it land on a switch somewhere? I pulled my fuse box out and replaced it with an ATC fuse box and I thought I labeled everything but apparently not… thanks for the info in advance.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
early
Samba Member


Joined: January 19, 2012
Posts: 183
Location: Glen Carbon, IL
early is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 8:05 am    Post subject: Re: manual transmission safety switch Reply with quote

here is a pic of my old 73 sport bug trans, it had this switch on it. left side of nosecone


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.



Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


cheers
_________________
early-
Barnfind westy project
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...highlight=
my 73 sports bug project build
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=497088
Current Projects :
73 Sport Bug - L13M gone now
67 Westfalia
57 oval window ragtop - sold june 2021
61 sedan
68 Corvette Roadster - Small Block, 4 Speed
86 GMC Sierra Classic- 4x4, Shortbed
94 Harley Flstn
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Forum Index -> General/Chat All times are Mountain Standard Time/Pacific Daylight Savings Time
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

About | Help! | Advertise | Donate | Premium Membership | Privacy/Terms of Use | Contact Us | Site Map
Copyright © 1996-2023, Everett Barnes. All Rights Reserved.
Not affiliated with or sponsored by Volkswagen of America | Forum powered by phpBB
Links to eBay or other vendor sites may be affiliate links where the site receives compensation.