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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:19 am    Post subject: Bus with no factory heat Reply with quote

Hey everyone

I purchased a Brazilian bus that came with no factory heat. I really want an option that could take some of the chill off and defrost the windows. I live in Ga so climate is relatively warm and in extreme cold I would just take the car. Does anyone make a unit that runs off of propane etc that would fit the bill and keep off the chill?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:34 am    Post subject: Re: Bus with no factory heat Reply with quote

Search the Bay forum with "propane heater" or "diesel heater" (title only box checked), and ye shall find.
Ditto for the Vanagon forum.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:44 am    Post subject: Re: Bus with no factory heat Reply with quote

a PROPEX is what you seek

many will tell you to use a chinese diesel heater

if you're cheap, the latter can't be beat
if you already have propane on-board for a stove, the former is the logical choice (want to add a diesel tank?)

the propex is, in theory, more trustworthy ... very common on UK bus builds
the CDH is obscenely price effective, $100+ is common
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Bus with no factory heat Reply with quote

Does it lack any and all heater components? Or maybe just missing the heat exchangers?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Bus with no factory heat Reply with quote

KTPhil wrote:
Does it lack any and all heater components? Or maybe just missing the heat exchangers?


Itís missing everything. Dash levers on back to the heat boxes.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Bus with no factory heat Reply with quote

Has anyone had any experience routing the heat from a propex to the dash in a transporter?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Bus with no factory heat Reply with quote

Iíve installed a propex before into a 1968 bus. Itís purpose was to heat the cabin but it seems to me that with some effort it wouldnít be too hard to install some ducts and a booster fan to move heat up front. Not a cheap endeavor though plus the propane causes the windows to fog which is the opposite of what you want.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=668162&highlight=propex
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Bus with no factory heat Reply with quote

It would be nice to know what engine you have. We can assume a 1600 Type 1 engine, but we know very little about your actual bus.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Bus with no factory heat Reply with quote

I will vote for the diesel heater. A propane heater would be nice if you already have it plumbed in, but at about 10% of the cost, itís hard to beat the Chinese Diesel Heater.
Iíve run them in 2 Busses and an Eriba Puck trailer, and I donít have any regrets.
Iím currently figuring out the best way to route the heater through the main heater tube up to the dash vents on a new Bus. I think itís the best heat for the least money you can spend.
Right now, I can buy a CDH on Amazon for about $110 CAD ($80 USD) for a complete kit, including all hose clamps and fittings. A Propex would run me about $1500 USD.I guess it depends on your budget. If my pockets were deep, Iíd go Propex. But to me, the extra money is better spent on other Bus projects.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Bus with no factory heat Reply with quote

You might wish to join the British based, Brazilian Bay Forum; there being lots of these vehicles in the United Kingdom, including motor-caravan conversions.

https://brazilianvwbay.forumotion.com

https://brazilianvwbay.forumotion.com/f4-aircooled

VW Beetles (UK) Ltd / Danbury Motorcaravans have experience of retro-fitting the Propex gas-fired (i.e. LPG, propane or butane) or Webasto heating systems to these 1997 onward vehicles, imported new from Brazil, with the VW 1600 Type 1 style air-cooled engine, catalytic converter & Bosch Digifant electronic fuel-injection [as factory-fitted to late-model, Mexican VW Type 1 Beetles], which was commonly re-chipped to liberate more torque & power from the British high-octane petrol (i.e. gasoline in USA parlance!?!).

https://www.danburycampervans.co.uk

https://brazilianvwbay.forumotion.com/search?mode=...lts=topics

ttps://brazilianvwbay.forumotion.com/search?mode=searchbox&search_keywords=Webasto&show_results=topics

https://www.justkampers.com/vw-brazilian-bay-windo...stems.html

https://www.heritagepartscentre.com/eu/volkswagen/type-2-bay/heating-ventilation.html

https://blog.heritagepartscentre.com/blog/2014/12/30/brazilian-kombi-buyers-guide/

https://www.kustomrevival.com/customers-rides/volkswagen-brazilian-bay-campers/

https://t2bay.blogspot.com/2018/10/brazilian-uga-engine-differences.html
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:11 am    Post subject: Re: Bus with no factory heat Reply with quote

Wildthings wrote:
It would be nice to know what engine you have. We can assume a 1600 Type 1 engine, but we know very little about your actual bus.


Ii is a 1600 type 1 engine. Let me know what other information is helpful.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:14 am    Post subject: Re: Bus with no factory heat Reply with quote

Does anyone have a brand of CDH they recommend? also Where would you put the diesel fuel tank?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:22 am    Post subject: Re: Bus with no factory heat Reply with quote

1994Brazillian wrote:
Does anyone have a brand of CDH they recommend?


There seems to be many youtube videos on these Chinese heaters
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:52 am    Post subject: Re: Bus with no factory heat Reply with quote

I donít like the plastic fuel tank that comes with the heater. I bought a lawn mower tank and mounted it in the engine bay, on the left battery tray. It makes for easy filling, and no risk of spilling diesel inside the Bus.

Thereís a really good CDH thread in the Vanagon forum, and on YouTube, thereís an Australian guy with 30+ videos diving deep into everything you ever wanted (or didnít want) to know about them.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:18 am    Post subject: Re: Bus with no factory heat Reply with quote

1994Brazillian wrote:
Does anyone have a brand of CDH they recommend? also Where would you put the diesel fuel tank?


They all seem to be made by the same company no matter who sells them...

https://www.vevor.com/s/deisel%20heater/diesel-heater-c_10321?sort_by=price&order=asc
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