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1994Brazillian Samba Member
Joined: March 09, 2023 Posts: 13 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:19 am Post subject: Bus with no factory heat |
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Hey everyone
I purchased a Brazilian bus that came with no factory heat. I really want an option that could take some of the chill off and defrost the windows. I live in Ga so climate is relatively warm and in extreme cold I would just take the car. Does anyone make a unit that runs off of propane etc that would fit the bill and keep off the chill? |
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kreemoweet Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2008 Posts: 3672 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:34 am Post subject: Re: Bus with no factory heat |
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Search the Bay forum with "propane heater" or "diesel heater" (title only box checked), and ye shall find.
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metahacker Samba Member

Joined: May 26, 2010 Posts: 600 Location: san.diego
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:44 am Post subject: Re: Bus with no factory heat |
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a PROPEX is what you seek
many will tell you to use a chinese diesel heater
if you're cheap, the latter can't be beat
if you already have propane on-board for a stove, the former is the logical choice (want to add a diesel tank?)
the propex is, in theory, more trustworthy ... very common on UK bus builds
the CDH is obscenely price effective, $100+ is common |
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KTPhil  Samba Member

Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 32397 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:15 pm Post subject: Re: Bus with no factory heat |
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Does it lack any and all heater components? Or maybe just missing the heat exchangers? |
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1994Brazillian Samba Member
Joined: March 09, 2023 Posts: 13 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:48 pm Post subject: Re: Bus with no factory heat |
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KTPhil wrote: |
Does it lack any and all heater components? Or maybe just missing the heat exchangers? |
It’s missing everything. Dash levers on back to the heat boxes. |
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1994Brazillian Samba Member
Joined: March 09, 2023 Posts: 13 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:49 pm Post subject: Re: Bus with no factory heat |
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Has anyone had any experience routing the heat from a propex to the dash in a transporter? |
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aeromech Samba Member

Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16306 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:25 pm Post subject: Re: Bus with no factory heat |
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I’ve installed a propex before into a 1968 bus. It’s purpose was to heat the cabin but it seems to me that with some effort it wouldn’t be too hard to install some ducts and a booster fan to move heat up front. Not a cheap endeavor though plus the propane causes the windows to fog which is the opposite of what you want.
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Wildthings Samba Member

Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 48959
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:02 pm Post subject: Re: Bus with no factory heat |
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It would be nice to know what engine you have. We can assume a 1600 Type 1 engine, but we know very little about your actual bus. |
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CanStan Samba Member

Joined: October 16, 2005 Posts: 974 Location: Calgary, AB
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:42 pm Post subject: Re: Bus with no factory heat |
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I will vote for the diesel heater. A propane heater would be nice if you already have it plumbed in, but at about 10% of the cost, it’s hard to beat the Chinese Diesel Heater.
I’ve run them in 2 Busses and an Eriba Puck trailer, and I don’t have any regrets.
I’m currently figuring out the best way to route the heater through the main heater tube up to the dash vents on a new Bus. I think it’s the best heat for the least money you can spend.
Right now, I can buy a CDH on Amazon for about $110 CAD ($80 USD) for a complete kit, including all hose clamps and fittings. A Propex would run me about $1500 USD.I guess it depends on your budget. If my pockets were deep, I’d go Propex. But to me, the extra money is better spent on other Bus projects. |
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NASkeet Samba Member
Joined: April 29, 2006 Posts: 2787 Location: South Benfleet, Essex, UK
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:10 pm Post subject: Re: Bus with no factory heat |
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You might wish to join the British based, Brazilian Bay Forum; there being lots of these vehicles in the United Kingdom, including motor-caravan conversions.
https://brazilianvwbay.forumotion.com
https://brazilianvwbay.forumotion.com/f4-aircooled
VW Beetles (UK) Ltd / Danbury Motorcaravans have experience of retro-fitting the Propex gas-fired (i.e. LPG, propane or butane) or Webasto heating systems to these 1997 onward vehicles, imported new from Brazil, with the VW 1600 Type 1 style air-cooled engine, catalytic converter & Bosch Digifant electronic fuel-injection [as factory-fitted to late-model, Mexican VW Type 1 Beetles], which was commonly re-chipped to liberate more torque & power from the British high-octane petrol (i.e. gasoline in USA parlance!?!).
https://www.danburycampervans.co.uk
https://brazilianvwbay.forumotion.com/search?mode=...lts=topics
ttps://brazilianvwbay.forumotion.com/search?mode=searchbox&search_keywords=Webasto&show_results=topics
https://www.justkampers.com/vw-brazilian-bay-windo...stems.html
https://www.heritagepartscentre.com/eu/volkswagen/type-2-bay/heating-ventilation.html
https://blog.heritagepartscentre.com/blog/2014/12/30/brazilian-kombi-buyers-guide/
https://www.kustomrevival.com/customers-rides/volkswagen-brazilian-bay-campers/
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1994Brazillian Samba Member
Joined: March 09, 2023 Posts: 13 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:11 am Post subject: Re: Bus with no factory heat |
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Wildthings wrote: |
It would be nice to know what engine you have. We can assume a 1600 Type 1 engine, but we know very little about your actual bus. |
Ii is a 1600 type 1 engine. Let me know what other information is helpful. |
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1994Brazillian Samba Member
Joined: March 09, 2023 Posts: 13 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:14 am Post subject: Re: Bus with no factory heat |
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Does anyone have a brand of CDH they recommend? also Where would you put the diesel fuel tank?
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aeromech Samba Member

Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16306 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:22 am Post subject: Re: Bus with no factory heat |
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1994Brazillian wrote: |
Does anyone have a brand of CDH they recommend? |
There seems to be many youtube videos on these Chinese heaters _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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CanStan Samba Member

Joined: October 16, 2005 Posts: 974 Location: Calgary, AB
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:52 am Post subject: Re: Bus with no factory heat |
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I don’t like the plastic fuel tank that comes with the heater. I bought a lawn mower tank and mounted it in the engine bay, on the left battery tray. It makes for easy filling, and no risk of spilling diesel inside the Bus.
There’s a really good CDH thread in the Vanagon forum, and on YouTube, there’s an Australian guy with 30+ videos diving deep into everything you ever wanted (or didn’t want) to know about them. |
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ToolBox Samba Member

Joined: January 27, 2004 Posts: 3428 Location: Detroit, where they don't jack parts off my ride in the parking lot of the 7-11
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