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Bugged Again Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2022 Posts: 162 Location: Virginia -Hampton Roads
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:16 pm Post subject: Pulling oil galley plugs - restrictor plug replacement? |
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Im working on a couple of cases to rebuild. One’s an AE and the other’s an AH. I’d like to remove the restrictor plug for deep cleaning as well as the other simpler plugs.
I’ve read an old Samba topic about this but I didn’t feel like it was finished. I want the restrictor plug, but I don’t have a way to make one. Does anybody sell these?
Based on the old thread it seems like there are those who just use a plug without the restrictor and there are those who make one with the restrictor. I saved a screenshot of the replacement restrictor plug drawing. I just don’t want to try to get one made. Is there a simpler substitute for this?
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clonebug Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2005 Posts: 4027 Location: NW Washington
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:58 pm Post subject: Re: Pulling oil galley plugs - restrictor plug replacement? |
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Bugged Again wrote: |
Im working on a couple of cases to rebuild. One’s an AE and the other’s an AH. I’d like to remove the restrictor plug for deep cleaning as well as the other simpler plugs.
I’ve read an old Samba topic about this but I didn’t feel like it was finished. I want the restrictor plug, but I don’t have a way to make one. Does anybody sell these?
Based on the old thread it seems like there are those who just use a plug without the restrictor and there are those who make one with the restrictor. I saved a screenshot of the replacement restrictor plug drawing. I just don’t want to try to get one made. Is there a simpler substitute for this?
Comments are always appreciated. |
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jimmyhoffa Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2014 Posts: 1059 Location: St. Louis
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:14 pm Post subject: Re: Pulling oil galley plugs - restrictor plug replacement? |
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I think the reason there isn't a market for the filter plug is that a lot of people going as deep as you are will add a full flow filter, thus eliminating the need for the particle filter plug for that specific bearing.
Are you adding oil filter provisions to the engines? _________________ 1974 Chenowth 2RL #1244 Street Legal
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txoval Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2004 Posts: 3552 Location: The Woodlands, TX
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: Pulling oil galley plugs - restrictor plug replacement? |
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The bearing has the restriction…as mentioned above this plug helped trap debris
I always pull it and install a simple plug…never had an issue, but I also always go with a full flow/filter setup |
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hardrada Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2022 Posts: 6 Location: on lake Merwin in WA.
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:21 pm Post subject: Re: Pulling oil galley plugs - restrictor plug replacement? |
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I just stick it back in. |
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12739 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:05 am Post subject: Re: Pulling oil galley plugs - restrictor plug replacement? |
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Toss it. The bearing has enough restriction. I see no need for two restrictors for the same bearing. I call B.S. on it being there to catch dirt. If it were why don't the rest of the crankshaft bearings have one too? They are much more critical than that one! That is just a steady bearing for accessory drive.
My theory is that is is there to limit the oil slung off the sling ring and reduce leakage behind the pulley when VW went to the 26mm oil pump. The earlier engines did not have it.
I could be wrong though but I have not seen any negative effects from leaving it out. _________________ We had the stone age, the bronze age, the industrial age and now we are in the age of mass deception and mind control for corporate profit. (The mass media age) |
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Bugged Again Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2022 Posts: 162 Location: Virginia -Hampton Roads
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:31 am Post subject: Re: Pulling oil galley plugs - restrictor plug replacement? |
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Thank you all for the input. I did think about reusing the old one if I don’t destroy it during removal, but I think I’m just going with the flow and leave it out. Pun intended. I’ll just use a standard plug.
The main reason for pulling this plug and others is I suspect debris from so much crud. These cases were otherwise in good condition and first cut line bore with standard thrust. I’ve seen rapid wear from hidden debris in oil galleys even with heavy cleaning where the case looked perfect. Just running cleaning fluid through the oil ways isn’t going to clean up everything. I’ve done this years ago and learned my lesson.
I am going to run full flow filtration.it’s just too easy to add at this point. |
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jimmyhoffa Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2014 Posts: 1059 Location: St. Louis
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:35 am Post subject: Re: Pulling oil galley plugs - restrictor plug replacement? |
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If you are otherwise actively filtering the oil, definitely ignore that plug. Filtration is the only meaning it ever had for the engine, and you're taking care of that. It does not do anything else. _________________ 1974 Chenowth 2RL #1244 Street Legal
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:38 am Post subject: Re: Pulling oil galley plugs - restrictor plug replacement? |
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just pull it, tap and put a plug in it. the bearings have the right size hole it needs. |
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