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Walty87 Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2020 Posts: 172 Location: Central Valley
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:38 pm Post subject: Westy Fresh water tank refill hose elimination? Plug or cap?? |
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I tried searching but wasn’t having too much luck. All of my searches usually resulted in eliminating the fresh water tank completely.
Are there any kits or has anyone had any luck removing the fresh water hose on the fresh water tank? I’m taking about the big hose that would connect to the side of the van that you’d use a garden hose or whatever to fill from the outside. Is there some kind of plug or cap?
I’m installing a westy fresh water tank in a non westy vanagon and I don’t really want to use the refill hose, but my westy fresh water tank has a hose connected.
I understand the smaller hose on top is an air vent / overfill hose and the bottom one will be connected to my sink.
Thanks guys! |
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ledogboy Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2005 Posts: 578 Location: Scappoose, OR / Oakland, CA
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:48 pm Post subject: Re: Westy Fresh water tank refill hose elimination? Plug or cap?? |
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It’s been a decade or so, but if memory serves, I just cut the hose, cleaned up a stainless bolt I had on hand and put a hose clamp on. Easy peasy. _________________ 1986 Westy Weekender
Now a full camper
1.8t Syncro conversion
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Walty87 Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2020 Posts: 172 Location: Central Valley
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:34 pm Post subject: Re: Westy Fresh water tank refill hose elimination? Plug or cap?? |
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ledogboy wrote: |
It’s been a decade or so, but if memory serves, I just cut the hose, cleaned up a stainless bolt I had on hand and put a hose clamp on. Easy peasy. |
Not a horrible idea but the filler hose is a weird green ribbed type hose and it’s kinda big. Like over an inch big? Or close |
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kamzcab86 Samba Moderator
Joined: July 26, 2008 Posts: 7918 Location: Arizona
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Walty87 Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2020 Posts: 172 Location: Central Valley
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:18 pm Post subject: Re: Westy Fresh water tank refill hose elimination? Plug or cap?? |
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Oh nice. Going to the hardware store tomorrow |
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vanis13 Samba Member
Joined: August 15, 2010 Posts: 3094 Location: ABQ NM USA.... Except when not
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:39 pm Post subject: Re: Westy Fresh water tank refill hose elimination? Plug or cap?? |
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Walty87 wrote: |
Oh nice. Going to the hardware store tomorrow |
That might work as a splash guard if you have it higher than your water level. Sealing those ribs on the house is a challenge.
I forget how that hose attaches to the tank but maybe take off the hose from the tank and plug/seal what the hose attaches to. _________________ 83.5 Westy with Subaru 2.5, 4 spd manual, center seat, COLD A/C on 134a!, Winter camp heated with an Espar B4 gasoline furnace
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Walty87 Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2020 Posts: 172 Location: Central Valley
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:45 pm Post subject: Re: Westy Fresh water tank refill hose elimination? Plug or cap?? |
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vanis13 wrote: |
Walty87 wrote: |
Oh nice. Going to the hardware store tomorrow |
That might work as a splash guard if you have it higher than your water level. Sealing those ribs on the house is a challenge.
I forget how that hose attaches to the tank but maybe take off the hose from the tank and plug/seal what the hose attaches to. |
Yeah, that’s what I intend to do. Take the hose off and cap / plug where the hose normally goes |
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kamzcab86 Samba Moderator
Joined: July 26, 2008 Posts: 7918 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 12:48 am Post subject: Re: Westy Fresh water tank refill hose elimination? Plug or cap?? |
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vanis13 wrote: |
...plug/seal what the hose attaches to. |
Yeah, that's the whole idea. _________________ ~Kamz
1986 Cabriolet: www.Cabby-Info.com
1990 Vanagon Westfalia: Old Blue's Blog
2016 Golf GTI S
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jimf909 Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2014 Posts: 7466 Location: WA/ID
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:05 am Post subject: Re: Westy Fresh water tank refill hose elimination? Plug or cap?? |
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I'm considering removing the fill hose because in 25 years I may have used it once (I fill the water tank through the lid in the top of the tank) and I'd also like to use the space for storage.
The water tank has a 1" - 2" nub that the hose clamps to. If the hose is clamped to not leak then the cap recommended by kamz should work. _________________ - Jim
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MsTaboo Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2006 Posts: 4087 Location: East Kootenay, British Columbia
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:04 am Post subject: Re: Westy Fresh water tank refill hose elimination? Plug or cap?? |
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I've thought about doing this many times. It would be nice to eliminate that hose to gain more room in what we use as the aux battery compartment.
Using something like these in the correct size might work:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BHNS765P/ref=sspa_dk_d...U&th=1
They also sell these at marine stores as transom drain plugs. _________________ Currently:
'90 Syncro Westy 3 knob w/Zetec
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DanHoug Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2016 Posts: 4777 Location: Bemidji, MN
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 3:29 pm Post subject: Re: Westy Fresh water tank refill hose elimination? Plug or cap?? |
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just realize that the fill hose port also acts as an air relief. not important for the small flow from the faucet as enough air SHOULD leak in from the wire grommet to prevent tank collapse but that nice laminar flow of water that drains out from the bottom cap will now gurgle and slurp when the cap is removed. just takes more time to drain, prolly no other drawback. _________________ -dan
60% of what you find on the internet is wrong, including this post.
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Honuak Samba Member
Joined: April 21, 2009 Posts: 521 Location: AK
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 3:51 pm Post subject: Re: Westy Fresh water tank refill hose elimination? Plug or cap?? |
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I used a transom plug and a generous amount of silicone to seal it all up. Its been 10 years and no leaks. I added a one-way valve to the tank cap to allow air to flow in and prevent creating a suction in the tank. |
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kamzcab86 Samba Moderator
Joined: July 26, 2008 Posts: 7918 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:40 pm Post subject: Re: Westy Fresh water tank refill hose elimination? Plug or cap?? |
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DanHoug wrote: |
just realize that the fill hose port also acts as an air relief. |
Vent hose is separate and on top of the tank:
_________________ ~Kamz
1986 Cabriolet: www.Cabby-Info.com
1990 Vanagon Westfalia: Old Blue's Blog
2016 Golf GTI S
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DanHoug Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2016 Posts: 4777 Location: Bemidji, MN
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:52 pm Post subject: Re: Westy Fresh water tank refill hose elimination? Plug or cap?? |
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vent and fill are different? dint know that! makes sense.
kamzcab86 wrote: |
DanHoug wrote: |
just realize that the fill hose port also acts as an air relief. |
Vent hose is separate and on top of the tank:
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_________________ -dan
60% of what you find on the internet is wrong, including this post.
'87 Westy & '89 Westy both 2.1 4spd
Past projects can be found at--
www.thefixitworkshop.com |
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Escorial Syncro Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2004 Posts: 437 Location: Manitou Springs, CO
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:25 am Post subject: Re: Westy Fresh water tank refill hose elimination? Plug or cap?? |
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I just installed this:
It slipped right in, expanded to a super tight fit. Haven't leak tested it yet, but I think it will work fine.
My only concern is the rubber tainting the water, leave a bad taste or poisoning me. Going to live dangerously and try it. At least the rest is stainless steel. _________________ Joel Lane
1985 Vanagon converted to syncro, ALH TDI, Reimo Primus top with Westy interior
2002 Toyota Tundra 4x4
1974 Honda CL360 Scrambler (for sale!) |
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vanis13 Samba Member
Joined: August 15, 2010 Posts: 3094 Location: ABQ NM USA.... Except when not
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:01 pm Post subject: Re: Westy Fresh water tank refill hose elimination? Plug or cap?? |
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Re: twist tight transom plug.... Depending on how thick/strong that nipple you put that in is, you may want to consider a outside reinforcement like a metal hose clamp.With a constant force expanding that nipple it is possible it stretches and then leaks. _________________ 83.5 Westy with Subaru 2.5, 4 spd manual, center seat, COLD A/C on 134a!, Winter camp heated with an Espar B4 gasoline furnace
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campism Samba Member
Joined: September 07, 2007 Posts: 4491 Location: Richmond VA
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 5:36 am Post subject: Re: Westy Fresh water tank refill hose elimination? Plug or cap?? |
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I used a cork with a turn of foil tape around the whole thing. _________________ '87 Westy in Wolfram Grey Metallic |
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Escorial Syncro Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2004 Posts: 437 Location: Manitou Springs, CO
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 8:32 am Post subject: Re: Westy Fresh water tank refill hose elimination? Plug or cap?? |
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vanis13 wrote: |
Re: twist tight transom plug.... Depending on how thick/strong that nipple you put that in is, you may want to consider a outside reinforcement like a metal hose clamp.With a constant force expanding that nipple it is possible it stretches and then leaks. |
Thanks, excellent suggestion! _________________ Joel Lane
1985 Vanagon converted to syncro, ALH TDI, Reimo Primus top with Westy interior
2002 Toyota Tundra 4x4
1974 Honda CL360 Scrambler (for sale!) |
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