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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2022 10:18 am    Post subject: Re: Sunroof drain tubes & lower quarter panel question... Reply with quote

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I read on this forum that a 1958 Beetle Ragtop has no water drain tubes. Is that correct? There are no tubes on this one I am restoring and to make some would be in the way of the headliner big time! Thanks for replies in advance!

Only the metal sunroof cars had drain tubes. Fabric sunroof cars have none.
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2022 10:33 am    Post subject: Re: Sunroof drain tubes & lower quarter panel question... Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply! No wonder I couldn't find any drain tube kits! This surely will be my last restoration at 79! Man! Does it get tough at my age! I couldn't do without the Samba members to answer questions about the really old stuff!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:04 am    Post subject: Re: Sunroof drain tubes & lower quarter panel question... Reply with quote

I found this thread to be very helpful. I'm restoring a 1967 sunroof bug and was aghast that the front drains just seemed to piddle into the A-pillars. That did not end well!
I've worked on my sunroof 1982 Vanagon and it had steel terminals exiting the rocker panels front and rear, as I remember. And I've studied early Porsche 911's and 912's and they also had steel openings.
Has anyone recently bought new tubing to fit this application? Was back in the 90's when I bought this car I was able to buy ONE NOS factory drain hose. It seems like it is pretty small, perhaps 10mm nylon with the terminals swaged out bigger, perhaps 12mm?
I know one can now buy kits of nylon(?) tubing to replace evaporative emission tubing and also fuel lines and I think they have the tools to stretch it in the kits.
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80 P27 Westy JUL 1979, 3rd oldest known US
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:00 am    Post subject: Re: Sunroof drain tubes & lower quarter panel question... Reply with quote

If your talking about tubing for your 67 then i used 7mm ID silicone surgical tubing. I re-ran mine due to the old ones being brittle. The seal at the top is super important and running the rear ones is tricky as you have to navigate the curves.

See here in my build thread.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...;start=180
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Sunroof drain tubes & lower quarter panel question... Reply with quote

This is what Volvo has used on their sunroof for years. ~9mm ID x ~12.5mm OD. It's very flexble and the ends can be easily streched over the drain fittings by hand....
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Being Volvo has used the same OE vendors as VW for decades-either Golde or Webasto, I would imagine they all use the same size. A two meter lenght is about $14 USD from FCP Euro #31371480.
https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/volvo-sunroof-drain-hose-genuine-volvo-31297743

I have a small cut-off if someone wants to try it for size before they buy it, yours for the cost of shipping only.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 11:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Sunroof drain tubes & lower quarter panel question... Reply with quote

[quote="Alan Brase"]
Has anyone recently bought new tubing to fit this application? Was back in the 90's when I bought this car I was able to buy ONE NOS factory drain hose. It seems like it is pretty small, perhaps 10mm nylon with the terminals swaged out bigger, perhaps 12mm?
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I guess my memory is a little foggy after this is laying in storage for 20 years?
In fact I BOUGHT 2 NOS drain pipes back in the 1990's when they were still available. AND THEY ARE DIFFERENT MATERIALS. One translucent like surgical tubing with a clear coupling shrunk on, the other very dark colored, brown or black, with swaged end, like the originals.
As i delve into this more, i'll post some pictures. My drains are all there. I'm gonna try to re-route the fronts. I'll make sure they are all clear before proceeding to cover anything.
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