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Splitdog Samba Split Personality
Joined: February 16, 2004 Posts: 4125 Location: Planet VW
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 3:56 pm Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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I have a pristine one I'd let go of for the right price. _________________ CH³NO²
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Blue Baron VW Aficionado
Joined: June 16, 2006 Posts: 24059 Location: Southeast USA
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 6:57 pm Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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It's very sad to hear of Mr. Barber's passing.
I revere him for an entirely different reason. He was an avid toy collector, and his writings in various publications such as VW&Porsche inspired me to build my own collection. He was ahead of the curve, having collected since the 1960s.
I recently acquired a piece for my collection that I had been looking for for more than 40 years, that I first saw pictured in one of his articles.
As for his book, I'm lucky to have the copy I bought when it first came out. _________________ We are striving for perfection, to make our cars run forever, if possible.
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scottyrocks Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2016 Posts: 2661 Location: Long Island, NY
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 9:04 pm Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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First, I am saddened by Mr. Barber's passing, and offer condolences.
Second, I think it's ridiculous that BotB is so hard to find and so expensive when one is located. There are dozens upon dozens of automotive books at the library and Barnes & Noble, and none of them cost eight million dollars. Whomever is the owner of the copywright to this tomb please just get another printing going so we can all buy one at a sane price, tyvm. _________________ “If you care for a thing long enough, it takes on a life of its own, doesn't it? Mending old things, preserving them, looking after them – on some level there's no rational grounds for it.”
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allsidius Samba Member
Joined: February 02, 2010 Posts: 1475 Location: Norway
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 8:14 am Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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Yeah, RIP as you have one of the most hyped books out there with little distributorship causing the it to be the most expensive thing out there.
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First of all. What a rotten post.
Second. Chris Barber never made a cent from any overpriced resale of his book. He got his $5 when the book was sold, and that's it. Jeff Bezos, on the other hand, made a bundle on resale of out of print books, Amazon is one of the biggest price hikers out there.
Third. Reissuing a book is a major task, and from what we now know, he was not well and probably could not take the stress. Hopefully his family can license the rights to the publication to the publisher for a reprint. _________________ 1973 1303S w sunroof Click to view image
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notchboy Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 22449 Location: Escondido CA
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 11:00 am Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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allsidius wrote: |
notchboy wrote: |
Yeah, RIP as you have one of the most hyped books out there with little distributorship causing the it to be the most expensive thing out there.
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First of all. What a rotten post.
Second. Chris Barber never made a cent from any overpriced resale of his book. He got his $5 when the book was sold, and that's it. Jeff Bezos, on the other hand, made a bundle on resale of out of print books, Amazon is one of the biggest price hikers out there.
Third. Reissuing a book is a major task, and from what we now know, he was not well and probably could not take the stress. Hopefully his family can license the rights to the publication to the publisher for a reprint. |
You are missing my point (or not) and its unfortunate that you think its rotten. You did a good job of backing up my sarcastic remark in a non-sarcastic manner so that some of the less touchy can get what I meant in not so many words. Cheers for that.
It is still rather unfortunate that it remains unobtanium for the staunchest of VW enthusiast. I do hope as well that it gets a reprint at a price more realistic. _________________
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OK, this thread is over. You win. |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69809 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 12:12 pm Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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allsidius wrote: |
Jeff Bezos, on the other hand, made a bundle on resale of out of print books, Amazon is one of the biggest price hikers out there. |
I thought I would point out it's not Amazon, at least for this book, it's private sellers on Amazon jacking up the price.
This is pretty common with hard to find (HTF) or out of print books and even other things on Amazon.com
I agree some books that are hard to find cost more but that's true of almost everything.
Example: 1000s of the VW parts in the classifieds on this site. _________________ How to Post Photos
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56Cabrio Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2008 Posts: 1899 Location: San Fernando Valley, CA
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 12:44 pm Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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EverettB wrote: |
allsidius wrote: |
Jeff Bezos, on the other hand, made a bundle on resale of out of print books, Amazon is one of the biggest price hikers out there. |
I thought I would point out it's not Amazon, at least for this book, it's private sellers on Amazon jacking up the price.
This is pretty common with hard to find (HTF) or out of print books and even other things on Amazon.com
I agree some books that are hard to find cost more but that's true of almost everything.
Example: 1000s of the VW parts in the classifieds on this site. |
Good point Everett , more people in this world should really do their homework and learn before making ridiculous statements. We just might all get along better knowing the facts. Just saying _________________ F#CK CANCER
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allsidius Samba Member
Joined: February 02, 2010 Posts: 1475 Location: Norway
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 1:15 pm Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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56Cabrio wrote: |
EverettB wrote: |
allsidius wrote: |
Jeff Bezos, on the other hand, made a bundle on resale of out of print books, Amazon is one of the biggest price hikers out there. |
I thought I would point out it's not Amazon, at least for this book, it's private sellers on Amazon jacking up the price.
This is pretty common with hard to find (HTF) or out of print books and even other things on Amazon.com
I agree some books that are hard to find cost more but that's true of almost everything.
Example: 1000s of the VW parts in the classifieds on this site. |
Good point Everett , more people in this world should really do their homework and learn before making ridiculous statements. We just might all get along better knowing the facts. Just saying |
Jeff Bezos has a percentage of every book that sells on Amazon. Of course he has no complaints when his sellers jack up the price. Not often I hear anyone take a bullet for Jeff Bezos, by the way. _________________ 1973 1303S w sunroof Click to view image
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Splitdog Samba Split Personality
Joined: February 16, 2004 Posts: 4125 Location: Planet VW
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 1:17 pm Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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"My house is worth a million dollars. But I'll sell it to you for $600,000 because I think the prices are too high." Said no one ever. _________________ CH³NO²
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Lind Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2000 Posts: 9915 Location: idaho
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 6:38 am Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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RIP Chris Barber. We will forever be grateful for his contribution to documenting early VW history.
I doubt that there is enough demand to justify an english language reprint. The people who want the book are likely numbered in the dozens or low hundreds. The demand needed to justify a reprint would be in the thousands. _________________ .
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cyberdyne systems 101 Sambanator
Joined: September 03, 2004 Posts: 415 Location: in my own little world
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:54 am Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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I've just paid for one described as in excellent condition for £200 (approx $247) plus postage. Seems a crazy amount to pay, but maybe its an investment! Looking forward to reading it (carefully!) _________________ When I think of something to say - I'll be the first to know
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Stetoppingphoto Samba Member
Joined: February 15, 2012 Posts: 475 Location: Darwen
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:19 am Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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There should be a reprint of this book, who can afford the ridiculous prices people offer these at? I know I can't and I've had my eye out for one for years. _________________ stetoppingphoto |
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finster Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2012 Posts: 7935 Location: north o' the border
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 11:33 am Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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amazed that abebooks has a couple on offer for £2,400 - both sellers are in the USA
if you can read french or german then these are still around for much less, la coccinelle is on amazon for 39 euros and der kaefer for £36 _________________ "we're here on Earth to fart around" kurt vonnegut
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Two Glove Boxes Samba Member
Joined: March 03, 2005 Posts: 838 Location: Texas
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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Lind wrote: |
RIP Chris Barber. We will forever be grateful for his contribution to documenting early VW history.
I doubt that there is enough demand to justify an english language reprint. The people who want the book are likely numbered in the dozens or low hundreds. The demand needed to justify a reprint would be in the thousands. |
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 34003 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 1:58 pm Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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On the other hand, authorizing someone to scan it into a PDF for a fee and distributing that would make it legal, widespread, affordable, and involve little or no investment on their part. |
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pastellgreen Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2012 Posts: 1048 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2023 4:02 am Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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A few words about Chris Barber, recently released in the last issue of the "Brezelfenster" magazine. Perhaps somebody has time to translate it.
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Stetoppingphoto Samba Member
Joined: February 15, 2012 Posts: 475 Location: Darwen
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:35 am Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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Just me that checks the book sections in charity shops?
I live in hope. _________________ stetoppingphoto |
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bwaz Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:31 am Post subject: Re: Birth of the Beetle by Chris Barber |
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Isn't this topic more suitable in another forum? Accessories/Memorabilia etc? |
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