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2381Buggy Samba Member
Joined: June 18, 2021 Posts: 122 Location: Down South
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 5:32 pm Post subject: Axle movement--Buggy |
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While playing around today, I heard a strange noise in the rear of my buggy-clanking. I was on a bumpy portion of the dirt area I've been on many times. At first I thought it was just the spring plates clanging, but never heard this type of noise before.
When I parked, I got out and looked a the axle shafts. Looked normal. I grabbed the left one and it had about 2-3" play -in and out from the wheel to the transmission. I know there has to be some movement-can't be solid rigid or the joints couldn't do their job. But that much in and out movement?
Keep in mind-bus transmission so it has a larger joint on the inner and a beetle/car joint on the outer. The other side has almost the same amount of movement. Not up and down-but in and out towards each joint. The boots don't look stretched.
Do I have a problem? These axles got new boots last years and were packed with the proper grease..no leakage at all. |
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Dale M. Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20377 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 6:47 pm Post subject: Re: Axle movement--Buggy |
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edit to zip because of misleading information... _________________ “Fear The Government That Wants To Take Your Guns" - Thomas Jefferson.
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jsturtlebuggy Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2005 Posts: 4496 Location: Fair Oaks/Orangevale, CA
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 10:36 pm Post subject: Re: Axle movement--Buggy |
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Yes CV are suppose to move back and forth. When at full droop they will move less.
Also the CV joint plunge in and out.
Jack it up and spin tire and see if you hear the noise. Bad CV joint will make knocking noises. _________________ Joseph
Fair Oaks/Orangevale, CA
Elrod Motorsports
Motion Tire Motorsports
Having fun with Dune Buggies since 1970
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2381Buggy Samba Member
Joined: June 18, 2021 Posts: 122 Location: Down South
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Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 9:52 am Post subject: Re: Axle movement--Buggy |
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Jacked the back end off the ground-spun each wheel freely in both directions-no noises at all.
Guess I am ok.
I now think my clunking might be the muffler I just added-hitting the back cage bar. I hope.
Went through the woods on rough terrain for a ride-no problems. |
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Mikedrevguy Samba Member
Joined: October 15, 2008 Posts: 2237 Location: Medford, OR
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Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 10:56 am Post subject: Re: Axle movement--Buggy |
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Check out the lower shock mounts. I once chased the clunking sound, replaced with new set of CV drive axle assemblies, only to discover that the problem was the shocks were clunking against the lower mounts. _________________ 74 1303 (RevBug): plan for German Look
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2381Buggy Samba Member
Joined: June 18, 2021 Posts: 122 Location: Down South
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Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 4:14 pm Post subject: Re: Axle movement--Buggy |
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Look at this picture..I think this is a homemade bracket or spring plate addition.. It has two bolts that are tight-but it clunks up and down. The right side is tight-no movement.
Should it be tight? I think that's where my clunk is coming from. Shocks are pretty tight-very little movement at the bottom. Some bushing wear, but not enough to cause the clunk I am hearing.
But I cant figure out why one side has play and the other does not. The bolts are tight. It's almost like the bolts are worn into where they sit and now have movement.
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ORANGECRUSHer Samba Member
Joined: June 09, 2006 Posts: 2644 Location: West Coast (Michigan's)
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Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 11:43 am Post subject: Re: Axle movement--Buggy |
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Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but this is something someone added because they ground off the spring plate perches and this basically keeps you spring plate from twisting and also gives it a perch or sorts. It shouldn't bind on the spring. I wouldn't know how tight it needs to be since I've never had a setup like this, but as long as it's not pinching the spring plate when it's tight I'd say tighten it as much as you can. _________________ Brian H.
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