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CrazyTestPilot Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 8:46 pm Post subject: Exhaust fabrication questions: Done (pic update) |
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I can't find an exhaust system for my type4 (sandrail) engine anywhere on the entire internet. It looks like I'm going to have to make my own. I know it's best to keep the pipes all the same length but are there other fundamental basics I should be aware of. I'll be using 1 5/8' mild steel. Thanks for your input.
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oprn Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 5:17 am Post subject: Re: Exhaust fabrication questions |
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You just hit on the biggest gap in the type 4 market today! There are precious few options out there. For my part, after buying a system and realizing it would be more work to modify it to fit than to build one from scratch, I went ahead and did that.
My system had different requirements than yours will. It was for a fiberglass street Buggy, limited ground clearance, accommodate the Bus cooling system, stay away from the cooling fan inlet, focused on low end drivability and midrange power. I also wanted the dual cannon look for nostalgic looks but was not interested in the usual poor performance normally found with dual cannon exhaust. This meant pairing the opposing cylinders instead of taking the normal easy way out. It took a few days of my spare time to do but I am happy with the end result.
None of this may apply to what you need but here it is. 1 1/2" primaries and 2" secondaries. This is for a 1911cc engine so your 1 5/8" primaries should be good for your engine.
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CrazyTestPilot Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 7:06 am Post subject: Re: Exhaust fabrication questions |
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Thx OPRN, that buggy is super cool. I want one.!!! Is that a Manx? |
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earthquake Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 9:03 pm Post subject: Re: Exhaust fabrication questions |
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Tri Mil used to make a BobCat system for the type 4, it was pt# 3116 wub I think.
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oprn Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 4:50 am Post subject: Re: Exhaust fabrication questions |
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CrazyTestPilot wrote: |
Thx OPRN, that buggy is super cool. I want one.!!! Is that a Manx? |
No. It's one of the many hundreds of copies. _________________ We had the stone age, the bronze age, the industrial age and now we are in the age of mass deception and mind control for corporate profit. (The mass media age) |
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oprn Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 4:54 am Post subject: Re: Exhaust fabrication questions |
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That is the one I bought. When they say "it will not fit the stock cooling system"... oh ya! It's true. I thought I could extend/modify it to fit but in the end it was easier to build something from scratch. _________________ We had the stone age, the bronze age, the industrial age and now we are in the age of mass deception and mind control for corporate profit. (The mass media age) |
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CrazyTestPilot Samba Member
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Posted: Thu May 11, 2023 4:35 pm Post subject: Re: Exhaust fabrication questions |
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Yeah, I have the stock cooling so the tri-mill won't work and European motorworks doesn't have anything in stock and likely won't have anything soon he says. I'm stuck making my own it looks like. |
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oprn Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 4:26 am Post subject: Re: Exhaust fabrication questions |
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The European motorworks one looks like it would work well in a sand rail frame. Maybe you can duplicate that. _________________ We had the stone age, the bronze age, the industrial age and now we are in the age of mass deception and mind control for corporate profit. (The mass media age) |
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CrazyTestPilot Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 4:58 am Post subject: Re: Exhaust fabrication questions |
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Yes I think I'll do something like that European motorworks setup. |
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 8:05 am Post subject: Re: Exhaust fabrication questions |
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oprn wrote: |
That is the one I bought. When they say "it will not fit the stock cooling system"... oh ya! It's true. I thought I could extend/modify it to fit but in the end it was easier to build something from scratch. |
This the one I got for my upright conversion. Still doesn’t fit right. The oil filter gets in the way. Opted to block off t(e stock oil filter and run a remote filter.
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CrazyTestPilot Samba Member
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Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 7:30 pm Post subject: Re: Exhaust fabrication questions (pic update) |
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Well here it is. Better than nothing. |
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oprn Samba Member
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Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 4:56 am Post subject: Re: Exhaust fabrication questions: Done (pic update) |
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Looks good to me. _________________ We had the stone age, the bronze age, the industrial age and now we are in the age of mass deception and mind control for corporate profit. (The mass media age) |
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