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sambaphil Samba Member
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EasternNotch Samba Member
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sambaphil Samba Member
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EasternNotch Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:59 pm Post subject: Re: 64 Notch S - Dizzy/Cap/Rotor Combo Question |
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Thanks Lucas! Much appreciated. The interchangeable part numbers mix things up for me. Is there a website that converts these part numbers? How did you know that the 04 006 is the same as 1234 332 082? |
There is a Bosch short to long conversion site somewhere out there that I found a long time ago. I have been running the same distributor in my Notchback since I bought it in 2005 and have learned from necessity
Parts are out there for them and when I come across spares at good prices I grab them _________________ 1964 Notchback
1966 Squareback
1969 Type 34 Ghia
1969 Fastback
1989 Doka AFN TDI |
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sambaphil Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:14 pm Post subject: Re: 64 Notch S - Dizzy/Cap/Rotor Combo Question |
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EasternNotch wrote: |
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Thanks Lucas! Much appreciated. The interchangeable part numbers mix things up for me. Is there a website that converts these part numbers? How did you know that the 04 006 is the same as 1234 332 082? |
There is a Bosch short to long conversion site somewhere out there that I found a long time ago. I have been running the same distributor in my Notchback since I bought it in 2005 and have learned from necessity
Parts are out there for them and when I come across spares at good prices I grab them |
I found this that I have printed for my Notch:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/Bosch_Tune_Up_Parts/Bosch_Tune_Up_Parts.pdf
Thank for the information. Now I have what I need.
I search eBay now and then for NOS and buy them if priced right. I have 3 distributor caps now...I think I will stop buying them for a while
Thanks Brother and congrats on the Pats win if you are a fan.... _________________ Link to 1966 Samba Build
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=607420
Link to 1971 Bay Bus - Clipper - L
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=671945&highlight=
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tasb The Distributor Distributor
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 6371 Location: Pentwater, Michigan
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: 64 Notch S - Dizzy/Cap/Rotor Combo Question |
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The 082 rotor is a common part found on all type I, II, and III engines with the stock distributor from 1964 until 1968 and then again on type III in the mid 70's. The distributor cap from the same era can be used on this distributor, as well; all you have to do is file a small notch where the condenser wire attaches. The points and condenser are the same as those used on the 36 hp beetle but one should test fit the lead wire to insure that it will reach the coil on a type III.
The reality is that the only truly hard to find part for this distributor is the vacuum canister. I find them often enough on the 36 hp beetle cores which is an incorrect installation. The distributor gets pitched onto the pile because it won't run right with the 36 hp 28 PCI carburetor. the canisters are usually low hour units. _________________ Roads Scholar &
1957 Kombi low mileage 36 hp governor equipped M 178 Slow Drag Winner 2014, 2015, 2018
1965 hardtop Deluxe Microbus owned since 1990 M 620 factory 12 v 1500cc
1961 (October)Single Cab- Road Trip Workhorse
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notchboy Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 22463 Location: Escondido CA
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:06 pm Post subject: Re: 64 Notch S - Dizzy/Cap/Rotor Combo Question |
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tasb wrote: |
The reality is that the only truly hard to find part for this distributor is the vacuum canister. I find them often enough on the 36 hp beetle cores which is an incorrect installation. The distributor gets pitched onto the pile because it won't run right with the 36 hp 28 PCI carburetor. the canisters are usually low hour units. |
Bingo. I've got the purchase price down on a couple of T3 dizzy purchases at swaps just because the seller, sees me hone in on that "odd" dizzy then ask how much. Nine times out of ten they are like - Ill sell it to you for the lower price if you tell me wtf its for?
The internet has made most of the "hard" to find stuff available for sure. _________________
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OK, this thread is over. You win. |
Jason "notchboy" Weigel
1964 1500 S
1964 T34 S Convertible
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sambaphil Samba Member
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HenrikL Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:20 am Post subject: Re: 64 Notch S - Dizzy/Cap/Rotor Combo Question |
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I am thinking of going with a pertonix electronic ignition (ignitor II). Have you guys tried this out? |
Have you found any Pertronix that fit the 1964 1500S distributor? I have looked but never found anything.
Maybe a 36 HP Ignitor fits? |
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sambaphil Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:20 am Post subject: Re: 64 Notch S - Dizzy/Cap/Rotor Combo Question |
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HenrikL wrote: |
sambaphil wrote: |
I am thinking of going with a pertonix electronic ignition (ignitor II). Have you guys tried this out? |
Have you found any Pertronix that fit the 1964 1500S distributor? I have looked but never found anything.
Maybe a 36 HP Ignitor fits? |
According to the pertronix website, the 92843 ignitor II fits this dizzy.
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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=607420
Link to 1971 Bay Bus - Clipper - L
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=671945&highlight=
Single Port Samba Phil
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tasb The Distributor Distributor
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:45 am Post subject: Re: 64 Notch S - Dizzy/Cap/Rotor Combo Question |
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It would be the same kit as the 36 hp beetle which is different than the 019, 010 units. _________________ Roads Scholar &
1957 Kombi low mileage 36 hp governor equipped M 178 Slow Drag Winner 2014, 2015, 2018
1965 hardtop Deluxe Microbus owned since 1990 M 620 factory 12 v 1500cc
1961 (October)Single Cab- Road Trip Workhorse |
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tasb The Distributor Distributor
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:54 am Post subject: Re: 64 Notch S - Dizzy/Cap/Rotor Combo Question |
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I've seen the "special" cap go for over $100 when all you have to do is file a notch for your notch into a $10 cap and you are good to go. _________________ Roads Scholar &
1957 Kombi low mileage 36 hp governor equipped M 178 Slow Drag Winner 2014, 2015, 2018
1965 hardtop Deluxe Microbus owned since 1990 M 620 factory 12 v 1500cc
1961 (October)Single Cab- Road Trip Workhorse |
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sambaphil Samba Member
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tasb The Distributor Distributor
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:45 am Post subject: Re: 64 Notch S - Dizzy/Cap/Rotor Combo Question |
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yes _________________ Roads Scholar &
1957 Kombi low mileage 36 hp governor equipped M 178 Slow Drag Winner 2014, 2015, 2018
1965 hardtop Deluxe Microbus owned since 1990 M 620 factory 12 v 1500cc
1961 (October)Single Cab- Road Trip Workhorse |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76948 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:00 pm Post subject: Re: 64 Notch S - Dizzy/Cap/Rotor Combo Question |
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The ZV/JCU4R3 uses the same Pertronix at the VJU4BR8. Both are vacuum/mechanical where the breaker plate it mounts to, moves. The 010 and 019 use the 1844 and the breaker plate is rigidly mounted to the body and doesn't move. _________________ Glenn
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sambaphil Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:35 pm Post subject: Re: 64 Notch S - Dizzy/Cap/Rotor Combo Question |
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OK..I ordered the correct Pertronix Kit then. I did run into a minor issue that is fixed with a little grinding.
I pulled the rotor off and slid the pertronix supplied magnet around the point cam. I tried to get the magnet flush to the bottom of the breaker plate but the bracket for the vacuum is in the way. Pertronix instructions point to grinding the bracket down a bit in order for the magnet to slide all the way down. See below:
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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=607420
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KylanC Samba Member
Joined: April 19, 2017 Posts: 67 Location: Long Beach, Ca
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Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 1:24 pm Post subject: Re: 64 Notch S - Dizzy/Cap/Rotor Combo Question |
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Resurrecting this one..
How did the electronic ignition work for the ZV/JCU 4R3?
I've tinkered with the idea of going electronic ignition with my car since I'm driving it daily and plenty long distance drives. I am running the 4R3 as well and happy with the performance. The points have served me well for the last 3 years, just wanna hear a bit more about this EI kit and how it worked for anyone who has used it. _________________ 1964 safari beige (L563) notchback 1500 S
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76948 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 1:40 pm Post subject: Re: 64 Notch S - Dizzy/Cap/Rotor Combo Question |
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It's just a Pertronix and will work like all the others.
And suddenly fail like the others, so be prepared if it happens.
Here's a topic dedicated to points or Pertronix. _________________ Glenn
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KylanC Samba Member
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Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 2:51 pm Post subject: Re: 64 Notch S - Dizzy/Cap/Rotor Combo Question |
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Fair enough, thanks Glenn _________________ 1964 safari beige (L563) notchback 1500 S
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