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Mark Lewalski Samba Member
Joined: June 19, 2010 Posts: 406 Location: Safety Harbor, FL (Tampa Bay)
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Posted: Mon May 29, 2023 7:59 pm Post subject: Pressure Brake Bleeder to Fit 89 Vanagon Fluid Reservoir |
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Hi folks,
Just trying to find a part number for a pressure brake bleeder that will fit my Vanagon. I'm not picky on manufacturer although Motive Power seems to have good reviews on Amazon. I did the MP application guide and the 0100 popped up as relevant but then one of the few results on Amazon says it doesn't fit my 89.
I imagine someone on here has bought one of these devices so, as stated, I'm looking for some help with the correct/applicable number.
Thanks so much,
Mark _________________ '89 Vanagon GL Wolfsburg "Bluestar" (given to and owned by my son now)
'87 Vanagon Weekender
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member
Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 12114 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 12:33 am Post subject: Re: Pressure Brake Bleeder to Fit 89 Vanagon Fluid Reservoir |
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I've had a Motive unit for over a decade and it's done great. The hose will eventually get hard and need to be replaced. Find one that fits German cars, just about any German car from the modern era (Vanagon and up). I've even used it on Bay windows with an adapter made out of a 2L pop cap. _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
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snuf Samba Member
Joined: April 15, 2008 Posts: 237 Location: TN
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Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 4:46 am Post subject: Re: Pressure Brake Bleeder to Fit 89 Vanagon Fluid Reservoir |
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https://www.motiveproducts.com/
Take the Quiz and you will get the answer.
0100 European Power Bleeder.
1109 Black Label European Adapter.
1100 European Bleeder Adapter.
I have one and it works well. I believe the adapters are used if you have an American Bleeder. _________________ 1986 Wolfsberg Limited Edition Vanagon.
AKA: Poptop with rear corner cabinet, fold down side table, rear-facing jump seat and a 12v fridge/cooler. |
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Mark Lewalski Samba Member
Joined: June 19, 2010 Posts: 406 Location: Safety Harbor, FL (Tampa Bay)
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Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 6:13 am Post subject: Re: Pressure Brake Bleeder to Fit 89 Vanagon Fluid Reservoir |
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Hey, thanks folks!
The 0100 is what came up when i did the application guide but, like I said, when I searched on Amazon, one of the returns said it didn't fit Vanagons. I wanted to reach out to you all for experience.
Till next time...
Mark _________________ '89 Vanagon GL Wolfsburg "Bluestar" (given to and owned by my son now)
'87 Vanagon Weekender
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 9:55 am Post subject: Re: Pressure Brake Bleeder to Fit 89 Vanagon Fluid Reservoir |
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I used to make pressure bleeders out of garden chemical sprayers and old brake reservoir caps. They worked, but just didn't last. _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
y u rune klassik? |
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syncrodoka Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 3:18 pm Post subject: Re: Pressure Brake Bleeder to Fit 89 Vanagon Fluid Reservoir |
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I had a 0100 European Power Bleeder unit, when i wore it out i replaced it with the black label version. The swiveling feature of the aluminum adapter makes it less hassle to screw on and off the reservoir. I use it to pressure bleed the clutch, brakes and cooling system and it is well worth the money. A vacuum bleeder is the only better way to refill the cooling system but this tool does the job well without using a compressor. |
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blyhigh Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2006 Posts: 121 Location: The Beaver State of Mind
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valvecovergasket Samba Member
Joined: October 10, 2018 Posts: 1491 Location: pnw
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Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 2:54 pm Post subject: Re: Pressure Brake Bleeder to Fit 89 Vanagon Fluid Reservoir |
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syncrodoka wrote: |
I had a 0100 European Power Bleeder unit, when i wore it out i replaced it with the black label version. The swiveling feature of the aluminum adapter makes it less hassle to screw on and off the reservoir. |
was about to chime in with this. get the swivel one
and you can use it on pretty much every watercooled vw youll run across _________________ MegaSquirt resource - SpitfireEFI.com
gone, but not forgotten: '83 tdi westy - swap thread |
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Westaru Samba Member
Joined: October 10, 2016 Posts: 189 Location: Utah
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Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 3:18 pm Post subject: Re: Pressure Brake Bleeder to Fit 89 Vanagon Fluid Reservoir |
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I've used the Motive with many of my previous vehicles and also with the Vanagon. However I have one tip with our vehicles: use it dry (fluid in the vehicle reservoir only).
I had a hose rupture while bleeding my van (hose was about 1.5 years old) and in doing so it ruined my gauges, melted the plastic on the gauge cluster, melted the dash plastic, permanently stained the headliner, and generally caused a bunch of other miscellaneous damage and a giant mess. Motive was apologetic and said they are now including guidance that the hose should be replaced at *minimum* 1x a year and potentially more often. They offered to replace my bleeder but wouldn't cover any of the damage.
I now replace the hose EVERY time I use the bleeder, and use it dry on the Vanagon. _________________ 1984 'Westaru' Vanagon Westfalia EJ22
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Mark Lewalski Samba Member
Joined: June 19, 2010 Posts: 406 Location: Safety Harbor, FL (Tampa Bay)
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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 8:12 am Post subject: Re: Pressure Brake Bleeder to Fit 89 Vanagon Fluid Reservoir |
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Thanks for all the info everyone!
So another question in the brake bleeding arena...
I want a good flare nut wrench for the bleeder valves. What size and make would you all suggest?
I want to send one to my son and one for myself.
I don't have access to my vanny since it's in Florida and I'm in Tucson for another few months. Last time I did my brakes, I seem to remember that I used an 8mm but that size in flare wrenches seems to be harder to find on Amazon and maybe I've got the size wrong.
Thanks,
Mark _________________ '89 Vanagon GL Wolfsburg "Bluestar" (given to and owned by my son now)
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syncrodoka Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 10:29 am Post subject: Re: Pressure Brake Bleeder to Fit 89 Vanagon Fluid Reservoir |
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6 point box end/open end wrench is what you want. The flare nut wrench is for the hard line connections to wheel cylinder or caliper. |
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:03 pm Post subject: Re: Pressure Brake Bleeder to Fit 89 Vanagon Fluid Reservoir |
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I second the part about using the bleeder dry. I also had a hose burst in my van, which thankfully missed the Bluestar upholstery.
As an aside, I once talked a guy through a brake bleeding problem he was having on his Mercedes. He couldn't get the mushy pedal to go away, and I said it needed to be pressure bled. He then took an old brake cap and attached an air hose fitting. He used a pressure regulator and shop air to apply pressure, et voilą! the brake pedal improved.
I guess the point being that you don't need to pump brake fluid into a full reservoir. Rather, you just need about 10-15 psi above atmospheric pressure to push fluid and air through the lines. _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
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valvecovergasket Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:44 pm Post subject: Re: Pressure Brake Bleeder to Fit 89 Vanagon Fluid Reservoir |
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the only downside of using it dry is having to stop and refill the reservoir if youre moving a lot of fluid.
a small price to pay to keep brake fluid off the inside of the van, though i have to say ive not had any issues with the lines, and i did our touareg with it at ~30psi this winter also _________________ MegaSquirt resource - SpitfireEFI.com
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:55 pm Post subject: Re: Pressure Brake Bleeder to Fit 89 Vanagon Fluid Reservoir |
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I gravity bleed prior to applying pressure, so the fluid drop is typically minor. _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
y u rune klassik? |
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Igeo Samba Member
Joined: September 25, 2018 Posts: 888 Location: Oakland, CA
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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 2:08 pm Post subject: Re: Pressure Brake Bleeder to Fit 89 Vanagon Fluid Reservoir |
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I made a pressure bleeder from a garden sprayer. It's a commonly done project I think. I did install a pressure gauge on it so as to track the pressure to no more than 10 to 15 psi. I sourced a cap at a wrecking yard and put a fitting on it. I have a couple of other cars that I did the same cap procurement for. I bleed these systems dry too. Works well, especially if gravity bled first as suggested above. _________________ 1987 Westfalia 2.1 WBX Manual |
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vanis13 Samba Member
Joined: August 15, 2010 Posts: 3091 Location: ABQ NM USA.... Except when not
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:01 pm Post subject: Re: Pressure Brake Bleeder to Fit 89 Vanagon Fluid Reservoir |
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valvecovergasket wrote: |
the only downside of using it dry is having to stop and refill the reservoir if youre moving a lot of fluid.
a small price to pay to keep brake fluid off the inside of the van, though i have to say ive not had any issues with the lines, and i did our touareg with it at ~30psi this winter also |
I use an old brake container cap to eliminate having to refill the car reservoir
garden sprayer for pressure > hose to cap on full brake fluid bottle > second hose (which goes to the bottom of the bottle ) from cap to reservoir cap with fitting.
the pressure in the garden sprayer moves pressure to fluid bottle where the pressure pushes out fluid into the reservoir.
This approach always maintains the same level of fluid in the reservoir. _________________ 83.5 Westy with Subaru 2.5, 4 spd manual, center seat, COLD A/C on 134a!, Winter camp heated with an Espar B4 gasoline furnace
www.SuperVanagon.com - some stuff I make |
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