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Greg Carr Samba Member
Joined: November 27, 2021 Posts: 15 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 10:32 pm Post subject: Clutch and Brake to floor grommet |
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I have a 1971 type 2 and wish to return replace the grommets through the floor opening. I see multiple different types but t can’t determine what’s needed to seal the push rods that go through the body floor. Does
Anyone have the part numbers required or an illustration?
Any help is appreciated |
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airschooled Air-Schooled
Joined: April 04, 2012 Posts: 12722 Location: on a bike ride somewhere
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50347
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:49 am Post subject: Re: Clutch and Brake to floor grommet |
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For above the floor I just use washers cut out of gallon sized oil or antifreeze jugs. They need to be just a loose enough fit for the pedal rods to move through without handing up. Unlike the stock pieces they pretty much last forever. |
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JHSTL Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2019 Posts: 3 Location: MO
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2023 6:55 pm Post subject: Re: Clutch and Brake to floor grommet |
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I have a 70 Westy. Can anyone point me to the replacement procedure to replace the brake rod to floor grommet? Thank you for your help! |
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kreemoweet Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2008 Posts: 3898 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2023 12:29 am Post subject: Re: Clutch and Brake to floor grommet |
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JHSTL wrote: |
I have a 70 Westy. Can anyone point me to the replacement procedure to replace the brake rod to floor grommet? Thank you for your help! |
1) Unbolt the brake pedal rod from the lever below the floor (8 mm nut, 13 mm wrenches/sockets).
2) Slide the grommet/boot over the pedal shaft (wide side up).
3) Bolt shaft/lever back together.
4)Slide boot up pedal shaft so it contacts floor when pedal is full up. _________________ '67 bug: seized by the authorities
'68 bug: seized by the authorities
'71 kombi: not yet seized by the authorities
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Greg Carr Samba Member
Joined: November 27, 2021 Posts: 15 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2023 7:51 pm Post subject: Re: Clutch and Brake to floor grommet |
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Okay, ordered and received the items suggested per AirSchooled’s recommendation. So I’m short, is that adhesive pad sufficient enough to hold the grommet stationary at the floor pan? The grommet nipple part up toward the clutch pedal pad or down toward the ground? Also does the grommet mount at the interior or exterior? I have no references and inquiries at the local level are met with “grommet, what grommet?” |
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dodger tom Samba Member
Joined: March 25, 2013 Posts: 1272 Location: Central Coast, CA, but we're all still Ukrainian
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2023 8:51 pm Post subject: Re: Clutch and Brake to floor grommet |
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adhesive pad is interior, grommet is exterior.
grommet nipple down, i think. _________________ 1978 Champaign Edition 2 Westfalia
Would never find the time to keep up another classic air-cooled. |
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Greg Carr Samba Member
Joined: November 27, 2021 Posts: 15 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2023 9:18 pm Post subject: Re: Clutch and Brake to floor grommet |
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Thanks Dodger T. The nipple part is what perplexes me as I can envision both up or down configurations. With the nipple up and penetrating through the foam interior pad does sound like a more hermetically sealed situation but then again it’s old style engineering. Does anyone else know what the original configuration was? Kinda don’t wanna do it twice as u could appreciate. Water penetration under the mat is something that was always a problem back in the good ol days. Looking for a tight seal on my bus. |
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kreemoweet Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2008 Posts: 3898 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2023 11:07 pm Post subject: Re: Clutch and Brake to floor grommet |
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Greg Carr wrote: |
Looking for a tight seal on my bus. |
These are not liquid seals, they are "draft" seals. There shouldn't be any splashing from below if
you have the pedal pan installed.
And the grommet is not stationary, it moves up and down with the pedal shaft. _________________ '67 bug: seized by the authorities
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'71 kombi: not yet seized by the authorities
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22665 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 3:42 am Post subject: Re: Clutch and Brake to floor grommet |
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You can buy one inch grommets in a kit for about $10. Side cut it and make a nice fix for clutch and brake. What’s the stock hole diameter? _________________ .ssS! |
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dodger tom Samba Member
Joined: March 25, 2013 Posts: 1272 Location: Central Coast, CA, but we're all still Ukrainian
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Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 7:06 am Post subject: Re: Clutch and Brake to floor grommet |
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greg, i just checked my ‘78, and when i replaced my seals, i put the grommets on nipple up. that way the nipple seats inside the hole in the felt square, providing a nice seal. _________________ 1978 Champaign Edition 2 Westfalia
Would never find the time to keep up another classic air-cooled. |
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kreemoweet Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2008 Posts: 3898 Location: Seattle, WA
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Greg Carr Samba Member
Joined: November 27, 2021 Posts: 15 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 9:43 pm Post subject: Re: Clutch and Brake to floor grommet |
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Thanks to all for your feedback, much appreciated.
I can see light from the ground when I depress the pedal so that’s where I was getting the opinion it needs to be sealed. Obviously this bus is missing the pedal pan as referenced. Does anyone by chance know if that is still an attainable part? |
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dodger tom Samba Member
Joined: March 25, 2013 Posts: 1272 Location: Central Coast, CA, but we're all still Ukrainian
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Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 10:58 pm Post subject: Re: Clutch and Brake to floor grommet |
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here’s one from the classifieds.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2552579
there’s another guy says he has some pre-72’s.
you might also try avery’s air cooled, busco, busted bus, and the other usual suspects.
actually, interstate is close to you, so you might start there. _________________ 1978 Champaign Edition 2 Westfalia
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JR_76BayMicro Samba Member
Joined: January 15, 2008 Posts: 51 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 12:33 am Post subject: Re: Clutch and Brake to floor grommet |
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I got a hole saw and cut a grommet out of a black thong , you call them flip flops in the US of A I believe
John Re
Melbourne Australia |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22665 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 1:07 am Post subject: Re: Clutch and Brake to floor grommet |
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JR_76BayMicro wrote: |
I got a hole saw and cut a grommet out of a black thong , you call them flip flops in the US of A I believe
John Re
Melbourne Australia |
I could only find red ones in my laundry basket. _________________ .ssS! |
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JR_76BayMicro Samba Member
Joined: January 15, 2008 Posts: 51 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 11:56 pm Post subject: Re: Clutch and Brake to floor grommet |
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Abscate wrote: |
JR_76BayMicro wrote: |
I got a hole saw and cut a grommet out of a black thong , you call them flip flops in the US of A I believe
John Re
Melbourne Australia |
I could only find red ones in my laundry basket. |
show me or it didn't happen ! |
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Air_Cooled_Nut Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2004 Posts: 3040 Location: Portland, Oregon
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Posted: Wed May 31, 2023 2:40 pm Post subject: Re: Clutch and Brake to floor grommet |
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Interesting...I figured the seal would attach to the body and the shaft would slide through it. _________________ Toby http://www.aircoolednut.com/
Did I mention that I'm an original Darksider?
'72 VW Squareback, 2007cc, GB 5-speed, rag top; '76 VW Riviera Penthouse Sundowner 2.0L; 2015 Audi S5 Cabby w/Stage II APR; '06 Ducati Sport Classic 1000; '14 Ducati Diavel Strada
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airschooled Air-Schooled
Joined: April 04, 2012 Posts: 12722 Location: on a bike ride somewhere
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Posted: Wed May 31, 2023 6:00 pm Post subject: Re: Clutch and Brake to floor grommet |
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Air_Cooled_Nut wrote: |
Interesting...I figured the seal would attach to the body and the shaft would slide through it. |
That's the upper foam seal's job. _________________ Learn how your vintage VW works. And why it doesn't!
One-on-one tech help for your Volkswagen:
www.airschooled.com |
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50347
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:32 pm Post subject: Re: Clutch and Brake to floor grommet |
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Here is my homemade seal that goes under the floor mat. It is probably 18ish years old at this point.
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