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coqcitywesty Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:09 am Post subject: Re: Bring-A-Trailer Vans |
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and RNM at $40K. _________________ 1991 Westfalia EJ251, 1972 Volvo 1800 ES |
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coqcitywesty Samba Member
Joined: February 20, 2018 Posts: 401 Location: Coquitlam, BC
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:28 am Post subject: Re: Bring-A-Trailer Vans |
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And sold (perhaps somewhat predictably) for $7K. _________________ 1991 Westfalia EJ251, 1972 Volvo 1800 ES |
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steve244 Samba Member
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MsTaboo Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2006 Posts: 4065 Location: East Kootenay, British Columbia
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2023 10:33 am Post subject: Re: Bring-A-Trailer Vans |
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Nice survivor. Should do well. _________________ Currently:
'90 Syncro Westy 3 knob w/Zetec
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vanagonjr Samba Member
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steve244 Samba Member
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joetiger Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2005 Posts: 5068 Location: denver
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:26 am Post subject: Re: Bring-A-Trailer Vans |
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FAS 2.0T 2wd with a syncro trans/locker
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-volkswagen-vanagon-westfalia-26/ _________________ Joe T.
'86 NAHT Vanagon GL Syncro/ supercharged ABA 2.0 "Pigpen"
'04 GTI 1.8T
'04 Golf R32
"get metaphysical with it. if it's simply a means to get to and from places, it will let you down. if it becomes your zen, it can't fail you." -dabaron
"Still, it's good to be afield."--VWagabond
Available Now! Vanagon to Louisiana--A Two-Lane Reckoning Through Past and Present
www.josephtrussell.com |
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calsurf Samba Member
Joined: June 28, 2022 Posts: 120 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:57 am Post subject: Re: Bring-A-Trailer Vans |
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^^^ Yeah I saw that, nice van. I wonder why the owner wouldn't go all the way and add the front diff? Doesn't seem finished to me. |
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joetiger Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2005 Posts: 5068 Location: denver
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 11:14 am Post subject: Re: Bring-A-Trailer Vans |
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calsurf wrote: |
^^^ Yeah I saw that, nice van. I wonder why the owner wouldn't go all the way and add the front diff? Doesn't seem finished to me. |
A syncro trans in a 2wd would still provide a lot of benefit. The granny gear is worth it alone IMO.
As I get old and soft, I sometimes (rarely, but sometimes) miss the smooth glide of a 2wd van. My syncro can be like driving a tractor. _________________ Joe T.
'86 NAHT Vanagon GL Syncro/ supercharged ABA 2.0 "Pigpen"
'04 GTI 1.8T
'04 Golf R32
"get metaphysical with it. if it's simply a means to get to and from places, it will let you down. if it becomes your zen, it can't fail you." -dabaron
"Still, it's good to be afield."--VWagabond
Available Now! Vanagon to Louisiana--A Two-Lane Reckoning Through Past and Present
www.josephtrussell.com |
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michaelasnider Samba Member
Joined: September 27, 2013 Posts: 357 Location: East Kootenays, Canada
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 11:44 am Post subject: Re: Bring-A-Trailer Vans |
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joetiger wrote: |
calsurf wrote: |
^^^ Yeah I saw that, nice van. I wonder why the owner wouldn't go all the way and add the front diff? Doesn't seem finished to me. |
A syncro trans in a 2wd would still provide a lot of benefit. The granny gear is worth it alone IMO.
As I get old and soft, I sometimes (rarely, but sometimes) miss the smooth glide of a 2wd van. My syncro can be like driving a tractor. |
Throw in a decoupler and enjoy the loose front end. |
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essjayarr Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2004 Posts: 65
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:26 pm Post subject: Re: Bring-A-Trailer Vans |
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calsurf wrote: |
^^^ Yeah I saw that, nice van. I wonder why the owner wouldn't go all the way and add the front diff? Doesn't seem finished to me. |
I am the owner and builder of this van. I’ve owned several Syncros over the last 25 years. The most recent was a very nice 1986 sunroof, Subaru 2.2 with decoupler. I’ve never had the need for the 4 wheel drive function and never used it. Ultimately they were sold to people who would use them. Even the Suburbans and F250s I’ve owned have been rwd with posi diffs. It’s worked for me for the last 50 years I’ve been driving.
I didn’t set out to build a Syncro. Even if it had the full Syncro treatment, in my opinion it is not a Syncro if it doesn’t have the “G” in the VIN. |
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jimf909 Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2014 Posts: 7404 Location: WA/ID
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:10 am Post subject: Re: Bring-A-Trailer Vans |
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^^^There's a lot to like in your van. Here's hoping that it catches some eyes and bids. _________________ - Jim
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Current: 1990 Westy Camper - Bostig RG4, 2wd, manual trans w/Peloquin, NAHT high-top, 280 ah LFP battery, 160 watts solar, Flash Silver, seam rust, bondo, etc., etc.
Past: 1985 Westy Camper - 1.9 wbx, 2wd, manual trans, Merian Brown, (sold after 17 years to Northwesty who converted it to a Syncro). |
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calsurf Samba Member
Joined: June 28, 2022 Posts: 120 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:23 am Post subject: Re: Bring-A-Trailer Vans |
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essjayarr wrote: |
calsurf wrote: |
^^^ Yeah I saw that, nice van. I wonder why the owner wouldn't go all the way and add the front diff? Doesn't seem finished to me. |
I am the owner and builder of this van. I’ve owned several Syncros over the last 25 years. The most recent was a very nice 1986 sunroof, Subaru 2.2 with decoupler. I’ve never had the need for the 4 wheel drive function and never used it. Ultimately they were sold to people who would use them. Even the Suburbans and F250s I’ve owned have been rwd with posi diffs. It’s worked for me for the last 50 years I’ve been driving.
I didn’t set out to build a Syncro. Even if it had the full Syncro treatment, in my opinion it is not a Syncro if it doesn’t have the “G” in the VIN. |
That's cool. Not sure what region your in. We have a lot of soft sand or snow in the upper regions during winter months in our parts. Nice build, should do very well on BAT. |
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essjayarr Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2004 Posts: 65
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 12:26 pm Post subject: Re: Bring-A-Trailer Vans |
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calsurf wrote: |
essjayarr wrote: |
calsurf wrote: |
^^^ Yeah I saw that, nice van. I wonder why the owner wouldn't go all the way and add the front diff? Doesn't seem finished to me. |
I am the owner and builder of this van. I’ve owned several Syncros over the last 25 years. The most recent was a very nice 1986 sunroof, Subaru 2.2 with decoupler. I’ve never had the need for the 4 wheel drive function and never used it. Ultimately they were sold to people who would use them. Even the Suburbans and F250s I’ve owned have been rwd with posi diffs. It’s worked for me for the last 50 years I’ve been driving.
I didn’t set out to build a Syncro. Even if it had the full Syncro treatment, in my opinion it is not a Syncro if it doesn’t have the “G” in the VIN. |
That's cool. Not sure what region your in. We have a lot of soft sand or snow in the upper regions during winter months in our parts. Nice build, should do very well on BAT. |
I’m in SE Massachusetts. I don’t take out my “nice” vehicles once they salt the roads and only after some street cleansing rains in the spring.
I usually have a designated winter beater for the nasty stuff. Most likely old American iron, rear wheel drive, posi and snow tires on all 4 corners.
Thanks to those appreciating my “Final Edition” of a 25+ year run of Vanagons. You younger folks….keep them on the road! |
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Alan Brase Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2004 Posts: 4532 Location: Cedar Falls, Iowa
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 3:44 pm Post subject: Re: Bring-A-Trailer Vans |
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essjayarr wrote: |
calsurf wrote: |
^^^ Yeah I saw that, nice van. I wonder why the owner wouldn't go all the way and add the front diff? Doesn't seem finished to me. |
I am the owner and builder of this van. I’ve owned several Syncros over the last 25 years. The most recent was a very nice 1986 sunroof, Subaru 2.2 with decoupler. I’ve never had the need for the 4 wheel drive function and never used it. Ultimately they were sold to people who would use them. Even the Suburbans and F250s I’ve owned have been rwd with posi diffs. It’s worked for me for the last 50 years I’ve been driving.
I didn’t set out to build a Syncro. Even if it had the full Syncro treatment, in my opinion it is not a Syncro if it doesn’t have the “G” in the VIN. |
Everybody wants a Syncro? Well they are great if you NEED 4 wd, but the other 95 of the time they are PIGS. I know a lot of people that had them new and were less than thrilled.
I think a lot of the fever stems from the outrageous price some go for. Get real, A Vanagon is NOT an investment. In my mind, a 2wd Vanagon might be the best car ever for ME. An earlier VW Transporter, T1 or T2 might be the VERY best 3rd world car because of their narrowness, load capacity and simplicity.
But a Syncro is a pig 95% of the time. As a driver. _________________ Al Brase
Projects: 67 sunroof bug, 67 Porsche 912 Targa, 70 Westy
Dec 1955 Single Cab pickup WANT 15" BUS RIMS dated 8/55, thru 12/55
To New owners: 1969 doublecab, 1971 Dormobile
Vanagons:
80 P27 Westy JUL 1979, 3rd oldest known US
83 1.6TD Vanagon, 87 Wolfie Westy daily driver, swap meet home |
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Alan Brase Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2004 Posts: 4532 Location: Cedar Falls, Iowa
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 3:49 pm Post subject: Re: Bring-A-Trailer Vans |
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Yes, it is nice.
Have you ever driven one? Easily the slowest car ever sold in the US in the last 50 years, I would guess.
These guys are wondering out loud if they can get AIR CONDITIONING installed. _________________ Al Brase
Projects: 67 sunroof bug, 67 Porsche 912 Targa, 70 Westy
Dec 1955 Single Cab pickup WANT 15" BUS RIMS dated 8/55, thru 12/55
To New owners: 1969 doublecab, 1971 Dormobile
Vanagons:
80 P27 Westy JUL 1979, 3rd oldest known US
83 1.6TD Vanagon, 87 Wolfie Westy daily driver, swap meet home |
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steve244 Samba Member
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coqcitywesty Samba Member
Joined: February 20, 2018 Posts: 401 Location: Coquitlam, BC
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 9:11 am Post subject: Re: Bring-A-Trailer Vans |
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steve244 wrote: |
luv me a slow ride!
No, I never drove one. But I did drive a 2.0 over I70 mountain passes and will not do that again in this lifetime. |
Rather than 'drive' my 2.1 WBX along I70 through the Eisenhower Tunnel, I might suggest that I 'coaxed' my 2.1 over the pass in the shoulder doing 20-25 MPH with the hazards on. It was this experience that reinforced my need for additional HP support if I was to repeat this type of road trip, hence the Subie swap. _________________ 1991 Westfalia EJ251, 1972 Volvo 1800 ES |
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Twan Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2015 Posts: 67 Location: Longmont, CO
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 9:33 am Post subject: Re: Bring-A-Trailer Vans |
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I hope I never need to attempt going over the divide in my van. It's bad enough in my lifted 4Runner with 3x as much power. _________________ 1984 2wd 7 Passenger Tin Top |
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MsTaboo Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2006 Posts: 4065 Location: East Kootenay, British Columbia
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:50 pm Post subject: Re: Bring-A-Trailer Vans |
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Alan Brase wrote: |
Everybody wants a Syncro? Well they are great if you NEED 4 wd, but the other 95 of the time they are PIGS. I know a lot of people that had them new and were less than thrilled.....
But a Syncro is a pig 95% of the time. As a driver. |
I would have to strenuously differ with that opinion.
Have you ever owned one? _________________ Currently:
'90 Syncro Westy 3 knob w/Zetec
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