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1988M5
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 Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 9:29 am Post subject: Re: Vanagon asking prices - Ridiculous! |
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Why do people who drive Jeep Wagons always want threads locked?
Not reading a thread is easy.
Jeep’s use blue thread locker., tundras Red. It’s a Japanese flag thing |
Odd you mention this. Liquid medium thread locker made by Permatex “Loctite” it is blue, but if you buy Hondas version “Hondalock” it’s red.
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zerotofifty
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| Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 11:51 am Post subject: Re: Vanagon asking prices - Ridiculous! |
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| 1988M5 wrote: |
| Abscate wrote: |
Why do people who drive Jeep Wagons always want threads locked?
Not reading a thread is easy.
Jeep’s use blue thread locker., tundras Red. It’s a Japanese flag thing |
Odd you mention this. Liquid medium thread locker made by Permatex “Loctite” it is blue, but if you buy Hondas version “Hondalock” it’s red.
BK |
My jeep has a locker axle 
After a hard big flex wheeling session, some things do come loose, we bring big wrenches on our offroad trips. Some bolt heads and the surrounding metal I paint a contrasting color to the underlying surrounding metal so as to make it evident if a bolt head moves. All hardware is high grade for suspension and steering. The track bar is one part that can be an issue, along with the steering box if one is pushing big boulders a lot.
If you fail to keep things tight, the jeep quickly becomes a heap. 
Do fourwheeling Syncros have particular hardware that might come loose? What parts need locktite on the suspension and steering to prevent loosening? You Syncro owners paint the bolt and surround to detect movement? What is the Syncro protocol for this? |
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jimf909
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Location: WA/ID
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| Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 12:25 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon asking prices - Ridiculous! |
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| ...It is all relative, or so says my next of kin. |
Zactly. 50 years of driving E-Types set my 'sports car handling' expectations rather high. |
I wonder if non-US advertising mentioned the Vanagon's sports car handling?
As mentioned, US cars emphasized couch like seating and remarkably poor handling. What US cars in the late 70s might be considered sports-car like? The corvette??? Special editions of Fox mustangs?
I knew virtually nothing about sports car handling until a friend took me for a ride in his 260Z. I'd never experienced anything like it despite my dad having an old corvette which was fun but hardly confidence inspiring. Certainly, the 1980 Caprice Classic Estate did not possess sports car handling.
Marketing departments speak to weaknesses. A Vanagon running through a slalom of cones was a mystery to americans who never imagined a station wagon doing the same.
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tdivan82 
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Location: Virginia
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| Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 8:34 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon asking prices - Ridiculous! |
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I have a dealer promo book that states it's simply a
van + wagon |
Yes this was the marketing at the time. You wouldn't call a wagon a "Wag On". The word wagon is pronounced more like "Wag-En". Vanagon is therefore pronounced "Van Again". Not "Van-A-Gone".
Don't even bother asking the Porsche people how to pronounce their manufacturer. You'll get at least five different answers.
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zerotofifty
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| Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 9:38 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon asking prices - Ridiculous! |
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| tdivan82 wrote: |
| danfromsyr wrote: |
I have a dealer promo book that states it's simply a
van + wagon |
Yes this was the marketing at the time. You wouldn't call a wagon a "Wag On". The word wagon is pronounced more like "Wag-En". Vanagon is therefore pronounced "Van Again". Not "Van-A-Gone".
Don't even bother asking the Porsche people how to pronounce their manufacturer. You'll get at least five different answers. |
Well that there be proof some Virginians got some weird assed pronunciation going on.
Wagen????? That be a weird way of speaking for sure. Vanagain??? That be weird too.
Wagon is spoke as thus in most places...
https://www.oed.com/dictionary/wagon_n?tl=true
Wag-uhn. rhymes with gun |
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dhaavers
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| Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 10:28 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon asking prices - Ridiculous! |
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“VAH-guhn”.
Please, it’s German.
I’m so glad we’re finally getting to the critically important content in this thread…
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tdivan82
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Location: Virginia
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| Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 5:37 am Post subject: Re: Vanagon asking prices - Ridiculous! |
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| zerotofifty wrote: |
Well that there be proof some Virginians got some weird assed pronunciation going on.
Wagen????? That be a weird way of speaking for sure. Vanagain??? That be weird too.
Wagon is spoke as thus in most places...
https://www.oed.com/dictionary/wagon_n?tl=true
Wag-uhn. rhymes with gun |
Yes Van-a-gun is correct. Same sound as Wah-uhn. If you say it like Octogon your language is broken.
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“VAH-guhn”.
I’m so glad we’re finally getting to the critically important content in this thread…
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Sometimes it takes a few pages to reach the heart of the matter! 
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Xevin
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| Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 5:44 am Post subject: Re: Vanagon asking prices - Ridiculous! |
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| dhaavers wrote: |
“VAH-guhn”.
Please, it’s German.
I’m so glad we’re finally getting to the critically important content in this thread…
- Dave |
What are they called in Germany
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jhax
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| Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 7:29 am Post subject: Re: Vanagon asking prices - Ridiculous! |
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| Xevin wrote: |
| dhaavers wrote: |
“VAH-guhn”.
Please, it’s German.
I’m so glad we’re finally getting to the critically important content in this thread…
- Dave |
What are they called in Germany |
Transporter |
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SnowDaySyncro
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Location: Hartford, CT USA
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| Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 8:54 am Post subject: Re: Vanagon asking prices - Ridiculous! |
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| US-spec passenger Vanagons would have been called Caravelle or Multivan in Germany. We never got the commercial models that were badged as Transporters. |
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dhaavers
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| Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 10:21 am Post subject: Re: Vanagon asking prices - Ridiculous! |
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| Xevin wrote: |
| dhaavers wrote: |
“VAH-guhn”.
Please, it’s German.
I’m so glad we’re finally getting to the critically important content in this thread…
- Dave |
What are they called in Germany |
“FOLKS-vah-guhn”
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MsTaboo
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| Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 12:33 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon asking prices - Ridiculous! |
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| ...What are they called in Germany |
Type 2 (T3)
isn't this fun!
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casey79westfalia
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| Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 10:07 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon asking prices - Ridiculous! |
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I dont know but I have big money in my syncro westy 1.8t conversion and its worth more then a $100k in my opinion. Van prices are down dude. Get in while you can. When the economy rebounds they will go up.
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http://www.baycountrymotors.com
My 87 Syncro Westfalia 1.8t Restoration
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=418933
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tdivan82
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| Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2024 6:01 am Post subject: Re: Vanagon asking prices - Ridiculous! |
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| casey79westfalia wrote: |
| I dont know but I have big money in my syncro westy 1.8t conversion and its worth more then a $100k in my opinion. Van prices are down dude. Get in while you can. When the economy rebounds they will go up. |
Beautiful, that looks straight off the showroom floor. Very nice. 
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dhaavers
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| Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2024 9:53 am Post subject: Re: Vanagon asking prices - Ridiculous! |
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No pics & it makes me sad… 
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casey79westfalia
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| Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2024 11:01 am Post subject: Re: Vanagon asking prices - Ridiculous! |
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| No pics & it makes me sad… Crying or Very sad |
Fixed links!
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76 Porsche 914
2014 Audi Q7
2010 Tdi Sportwagen
Currently looking for 62 Double Cab, 66 Westfalia Parts!
(Rear seat and pedestal, bumpers, mirrors)
http://www.baycountrymotors.com
My 87 Syncro Westfalia 1.8t Restoration
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=418933
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Klister
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| Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2024 11:08 am Post subject: Re: Vanagon asking prices - Ridiculous! |
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I'm more jealous of your garage than your van. My '91 Syncro sits in the driveway under the canopy.  |
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bobbyblack
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| Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2024 11:19 am Post subject: Re: Vanagon asking prices - Ridiculous! |
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| I dont know but I have big money in my syncro westy 1.8t conversion and its worth more then a $100k |
does the tarp under the engine/trans catch gold drips or something that makes it worth that much? Don't put gold dust in your engine or trans case, and then you won't have to worry about catching it... Hmmm... maybe there ARE some oils out there that promote gold as a sweet lube! I better get looking for that right away! Then MINE can be worth putting a tarp under, so I can be a gold prospector too!
Too bad none of mine leak!
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casey79westfalia
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| Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2024 11:34 am Post subject: Re: Vanagon asking prices - Ridiculous! |
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does the tarp under the engine/trans catch gold drips or something that makes it worth that much? Don't put gold dust in your engine or trans case, and then you won't have to worry about catching it... Hmmm... maybe there ARE some oils out there that promote gold as a sweet lube! I better get looking for that right away! Then MINE can be worth putting a tarp under, so I can be a gold prospector too!
Too bad none of mine leak! |
I keep tarps under all my cars just in case. I challenge you to strip a syncro down to bare metal, metal and bodywork done high quality and do a full 1.8t conversion and all the upgrade, accessories, systems and a real quality paint job and tell me how much when your don?? Keep track of receipts and hours.
Painted in and out.
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66 Westfalia
87 Westfalia Syncro "Phoenix"
88 Double Cab
76 Porsche 914
2014 Audi Q7
2010 Tdi Sportwagen
Currently looking for 62 Double Cab, 66 Westfalia Parts!
(Rear seat and pedestal, bumpers, mirrors)
http://www.baycountrymotors.com
My 87 Syncro Westfalia 1.8t Restoration
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=418933
"Do it the right way, or you'll pay for it" |
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skills@eurocarsplus
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| Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2024 11:51 am Post subject: Re: Vanagon asking prices - Ridiculous! |
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I keep tarps under all my cars just in case. I challenge you to strip a syncro down to bare metal, metal and bodywork done high quality and do a full 1.8t conversion and all the upgrade, accessories, systems and a real quality paint job and tell me how much when your don?? Keep track of receipts and hours.
Painted in and out. |
I appreciate what you're saying and have lived it myself but let's be real here...
you overbuilt for the neighborhood. you'll never get it back
I did the same with a bay window. you can literally shave in the frame rails because it's so clean and the best offer I had was 70k some years ago
Nobody is going to pop for that now, or in the future
bottom line is you did yours for you, just like I did mine for me. You can't expect the market to bear that decision
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