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Huetti_1989
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 Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2024 3:38 pm Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria |
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The package tray is dead, it is rusted thin like paper and have holes everywhere, i hope gerson is still making parts!
I an still confused how the tray is installed, |
There is a post somewhere that shows rolling up the rear of the tray to put it in. It definitely did not look easy. I also remember someone having a replacement panel that was a little wide that caused some issues. Another cut it in half but I think it would be easier to bend and fix any damage after it is in there.
EDIT: Actually I think it was the forward edge they bent up to install. Maybe put you original back together and experiment.
Have browsed every BD thread I could find but only retain about 5%. 
I will build a new panel for mine. Should be relatively easy to press in the ribs with my widened hydraulic press. I get satisfaction from building my own parts. Much better than getting annoyed by incorrect replacement parts. |
I can remember i see that post, but unfortunately it not stays in my brain...
Yes, build a new panel is a good idea, but i am not know how to make that long sills without a powerhammer, and i hardly need a good shrinking machine, how do you make sills?
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Nice progress and top notch work as usual Christian  |
Thank you man! are you come to Salzburg to the VW Nutzfahrzeuge Treffen?!
Get the Birth certificate today:
That panel about the hatch eats a day of work again:
Rebent the seal channel:
Adjust the holes for the hatch srews:
Weld the cages for the nuts back in the new place:
Open, adjust, close, adjust, rebent, install, disassemble and so on for hours...
Some spots, and some beer after that!
-Christian
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kadeef 1
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| Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2024 1:46 pm Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria |
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| Kristián, as always, professional and amazing work. I am an amateur, and I draw experience and knowledge from your renovation. Ivan |
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vw356
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| Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2024 4:53 pm Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria |
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Great looking work!
What kind of primer are you using? (Copperweld?)
Thank You for sharing this project!
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j.pickens
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| Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 1:08 pm Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria |
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I hope you saved the trim strip which was between the hinge and body on the decklid. That is unobtanium, and is worth restoring or making your own. The repro stuff is WAY too thick and has too big a bead diameter.
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ddutch
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| Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria |
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I also have a big problem with the horizontal fire wall above the engine, klassic fab doesn't have it anymore.
-Christian |
Maybe Mark Spicer can help you out. He does make the panel between the engine bay and the cargo floor. I assume the shelf panel above the engine bay has the same rib patern;
https://www.type29.co.uk/product/engine-bay-to-cargo-floor-panel-vin-panel/ |
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Fleetline15
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| Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 4:51 am Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria |
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The strip is gone to far away, maybe i can use it as a template, good idea!
I thinking about to buy one but when you say they are bad i try to male my own.
-Christian |
Mike has an advert up - https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2200324
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djfordmanjack
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| Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 7:14 am Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria |
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I believe Christian is talking about the 'parcel shelf' panel, that he already removed. the lower firewall and engine compartment looks quite ok on his panel.
christian, since the parcel shelf is also a very large panel to ship, and it obviously needs bending and tweaking to install....here is my idea. go ask a local metal shop ( Spengler, Laserschneider, CNC Schlosserei) who can bend/stamp the beads into 1mm sheetmetal on an CNC assisted bench stamp. it should be really easy for such a shop to produce the whole sheet in one piece. it would look just like corrugated roofing tin. you would have to cut/shrink, weld and flatten all of the bead ends yourself. but that is very doable. I also made my own metal die and stamp male/female molds so I can improve the look of the bead ends.
these are just examples to give you an idea (front floors and belly pans).
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I also have a big problem with the horizontal fire wall above the engine, klassic fab doesn't have it anymore.
-Christian |
Maybe Mark Spicer can help you out. He does make the panel between the engine bay and the cargo floor. I assume the shelf panel above the engine bay has the same rib patern;
https://www.type29.co.uk/product/engine-bay-to-cargo-floor-panel-vin-panel/ |
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| Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:10 pm Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria |
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| I believe Christian is talking about the 'parcel shelf' panel, that he already removed. |
Yes, I know, that's the panel I meant. |
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| Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:20 pm Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria |
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Neat work, Christian
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I have drain holes on lower and upper part of my engine lid but mine is 54 model
they look like original holes and only one hole on driver side of outer skin
NOT sure if this was on 52 , when it was changed - added
took pics of all 4 corners on my 54 lid for your reference
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Nice detail on the drain holes
Would be nice to pinpoint the changeover month
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| I hope you saved the trim strip which was between the hinge and body on the decklid. That is unobtanium, and is worth restoring or making your own. The repro stuff is WAY too thick and has too big a bead diameter. |
Good spot, John
Repro bead is is 5mm diameter!
Original is 3mm diameter!
Original stuff just dries out and cracks, so seldom survives
That’s an obvious difference. Feels way thinner too…like panel vinyl v seat vinyl
Who can do some decklid beading that is true to original?
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| Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 9:35 am Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria |
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Good spot, John
Repro bead is is 5mm diameter!
Original is 3mm diameter!
Original stuff just dries out and cracks, so seldom survives
That’s an obvious difference. Feels way thinner too…like panel vinyl v seat vinyl
Who can do some decklid beading that is true to original? |
Is this 3 or 5mm?
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2200324 |
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