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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 3:52 pm    Post subject: Early non-adjustable armrests: What's inside? Reply with quote

Like the subject query's, what's inside the early armrests? I'm assuming some sort of bar or keel/backbone material that's then wrapped in hard foam and luxurious velour and rich Corinthian vinyl.

This came about because I was thinking how hard it'd be to extend the ends of them a couple inches... yeah lots of potential work for not a large return, but its my party and i'm sure i'll cry at some point in the process. Plus i doubt the Fancy Adjustable Armrests are even available slash easily retrofitted.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 7:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Early non-adjustable armrests: What's inside? Reply with quote

Arm rests are tough to reupholster. Just because the panels of vinyl/fabric are so small and at that size have very little stretch. Plus you want them tight. Trim seam allowances down to a minimum. I haven't dissected of of those but common practice was to inject the foam into a mold with the metal backbone inside. Sometimes with the vinyl fabric cover in place too. You probly knew all that. So installing a cover I've sewn up can be a real #*%$@×". Plan on a few hand sewn stitches to finish closing it up. I'm thinking you're right that you would need to extend the spine a bit before adding more foam and upholstering it.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 8:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Early non-adjustable armrests: What's inside? Reply with quote

alaskadan wrote:
I haven't dissected of of those but common practice was to inject the foam into a mold with the metal backbone inside.


I have a late-model version disassembled right now trying to fix a break in the pivot and that's how it appears to have been made. It seems the foam was blown straight into the fabric covering.

Here are some great photos of late model armrests. I know the OP needs early-years but this may provide some help:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7872305
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2024 10:13 am    Post subject: Re: Early non-adjustable armrests: What's inside? Reply with quote

I seem to recall Duncan (Rest in Peace), cobbled up some kinda extension for his arm rests?
You might try googling up his posts.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2024 12:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Early non-adjustable armrests: What's inside? Reply with quote

ProvoCyclist wrote:
Plus i doubt the Fancy Adjustable Armrests are even available

They are available, in Europe anyways. It's actually not an original VW part - those adjustable knob arm rests were made by ISRI, and used in Euro commercial trucks from various manufacturers. Probably where VW got the idea to borrow them for the T3.

Edit: I put late Vanagon seats with the adjustment knob in my '82 Westy. I needed to replace the black plastic trim piece around the adjuster knob, on both of my seats (was cracked). I found the replacement part here. If you scroll down, it shows what other trucks this was used on. That may help in sourcing some adjustable arm rests.

https://he-meng.com/products/black-armrest-plastic...-2-2122-03

This ISRI part is a 100% identical match for the VW part. The only difference is in the area where the VW part number is stamped, is a blank rectangle on the ISRI parts.

ISRI part on left, VW part on right:

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Late arm rests are made of wood and foam inside:

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2024 3:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Early non-adjustable armrests: What's inside? Reply with quote

Years ago I extended my non-adjustable armrests using two sets. I still have them sitting around, uncovered. I had always intended to have Sewfine cover them for me but was waiting till I had a fabric choice. I did have them cover a set of adjustables for me, using some original fabric from a cushion cover and one of their Vanagon vinyls and they came out beautiful. Let me know if your interested in the arm rests, I'd sell them cheap. I'll dig them out a post a picture of the finished product. Here are some pictures how I did it, maybe not the correct sequence thou.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2024 3:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Early non-adjustable armrests: What's inside? Reply with quote

Looks like they came just over 12". The spray foam worked well, I think I used sandpaper to smooth it out. I got the sections lined up pretty good, maybe a little lippage, but I'd imagine to use some padding on the tops at least. Then there is the adjustable arm rest cover by Sewfine.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2024 4:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Early non-adjustable armrests: What's inside? Reply with quote

Look like a pair of baguettes. Getting hungry for a sub sandwich now.
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