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dhaavers
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Confused…you want to rip it out or keep in place & refurb? Plenty of topics on both.
I did a fairly complete R&R on my early 86 AC, mechanically very similar to yours
other than the roof ducting.
Recommended reading: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=292488
Looking forward to clarification… 
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rogertj
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| Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2024 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: Has anyone fixed AC from an '85 Vanagon tin top? |
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keep
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Roger
Had a Carbureted ABA after engoing the heck out of it now going for ABA 2.0 Jetta EFI ill put a garrett in to the tin can later or maybe go electric?
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dhaavers
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| Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2024 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: Has anyone fixed AC from an '85 Vanagon tin top? |
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ok cool
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Mckinleyvillian
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| Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2024 9:26 am Post subject: Re: Has anyone fixed AC from an '85 Vanagon tin top? |
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ok cool
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rogertj
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| Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2024 5:21 pm Post subject: Re: Has anyone fixed AC from an '85 Vanagon tin top? |
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Confused…you want to rip it out or keep in place & refurb? Plenty of topics on both.
I did a fairly complete R&R on my early 86 AC, mechanically very similar to yours
other than the roof ducting.
Recommended reading: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=292488
Looking forward to clarification…
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Dave thank you for sharing the link it is a very complete guide of what to do, yes I believe based on the little footage on the 85 that it is going to be similar of the components, I read the 2 resumes of the entire 60 pages on page 1 and is very straight forward. Here at where I am they are several suppliers that can help with the ends of the connections as well for hoses and a local supplier that can make the crimping of the hoses if I need new ones. Heres some photos of my setup looks fair to be a 39 year old vehicle.
Most posibly this vehicle was well taking care of when was in Cali because the hoses look in good shape but I will know the actual condition when they are tested.
My apologies for not extending my response I was in a hurry yesterday.
This build, if I decide to begin purchasing the equipment to do it, will be in a diferent moment because I have my hands in 2 proyects, one is my subaru that I decided to rebuild and the other is the vanagon.
it will be nice to have it running again. I will go true the entire topic on the next week, lots of photos and information of parts and supplies.
I will start to learn from Saint Youtube and Saint Google to learn. AC is a topic that I have always wanted to get involved.
Thanks again for the link! See you guys soon!
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Had a Carbureted ABA after engoing the heck out of it now going for ABA 2.0 Jetta EFI ill put a garrett in to the tin can later or maybe go electric?
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dhaavers
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| Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2024 6:01 pm Post subject: Re: Has anyone fixed AC from an '85 Vanagon tin top? |
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Good update, thx.
FYI: Best practice is to remove & replace all rubber hoses, either reusing original
connectors as I did <or> modern versions (“EZ-Clip”) as djkeev did.
Tell us more about the hard lines you pictured at the B pillar…are those metal
like the fittings, plastic, or something else? Asking because that’s the biggest
difference between your system & mine (early 86)...
Trying to learn something every day…
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Selsk
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| Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 1:23 pm Post subject: Re: Has anyone fixed AC from an '85 Vanagon tin top? |
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I fixed mine for a short while lol. I replaced the dryer, the evap valve and installed the gowesty high effiency condenser for the modern coolant R134a. The new condenser is a must. It was such a trip having ice cold AC in the van. My big error was not refilling the system with the Pag100 oil. My buddy that refilled my system told me not to worry as the 134 had oil pre-mixed. So on my first roadtrip the compressor started squealing and overheated. So it was short lived, but very possible to fix. Good luck with yours!
edit: Sorry, mine is a '87 not '85. not sure of the differences to the AC system. |
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AndyBees
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| Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 4:33 pm Post subject: Re: Has anyone fixed AC from an '85 Vanagon tin top? |
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Almost 15 years ago, I did a complete removal of the overhead duct, drain pipes, wiring, etc., in my '84 Tin Top.
The plastic was cracked like yours. On the inside, I reinforced it with fiberglass, pieces of aluminum, pop rivets and screws. Yes, the cracks are somewhat still visible, but I did fill them from the outside with JB Weld. Then, I used white paint sparingly to go over the JB Weld ...
Then, in 2017, I completely replaced the hoses. I measured the old hoses and added one inch to the total length. I submitted the info to Cold Hose dot Com. They made the hoses .. everything worked fine.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 7:21 am Post subject: Re: Has anyone fixed AC from an '85 Vanagon tin top? |
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More thought, my posts show how things are attached/bolted on the early system.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=722871&highlight=early+++system+notes
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rogertj
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| Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:39 am Post subject: Re: Has anyone fixed AC from an '85 Vanagon tin top? |
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Ill have more photos of my components when I start the project hopefully the beginning of next year because heat in the border area is not like years ago, we starting to need AC in the houses...
Thank you everyone for contributing to this post! Super important to have our rigs function with the original equipment, I wonder whats the cost diference between going this route to for example the small car kit? I thing it was going for 2000 bucks?
See you soon guys! And thanks again!
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rogertj
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| Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:26 pm Post subject: Re: Has anyone fixed AC from an '85 Vanagon tin top? |
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If anyone wants to learn about AC check out this video it very help full as I believe they are hundreds if not thousands of videos explaining it.
Enjoy
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