Square back resurrection

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[Bobnotch]

It's looking good.
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71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120

[sunroof]

Once again, very satisfied with how that went

I like penetration as much as the next guy

Thursday there will be grinding.

But first I am Helping Barry with his TR6. Tomorrow Ralf and I will finish dismantling the transmission and work up a parts list. Barry is going to choke when he sees how much this is going to cost!

Don
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[djfordmanjack]

Fantastic work on the Variant ! Being able to follow the delicate repair work on your rocker panels, it just makes me appreciate my never welded nor rusted survivor notch so much more. Still it's so interesting to see whats going on inside a Type 3! One question, is your car still in og paint and are you going to keep it (or the old respray, if any) as a patina car ?
Imho many of the panels and color do look great, showing their story and age. I don't know if it's possible to save. Blending the rocker repairs probably would work fine.
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Hotrods, Fords, Veedubs and Triumph Twins !

52 Barndoor DLX Coachbuild project
55 Wolfsburg panel project, og paint Taubenblau L31
62 Dickholmer, custom color Seeblau L360
63 1500 Notch, og paint Rubin Rot L456
67 1500 Käfer, og paint Lotus weiß L282 w/red interior

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[Bobnotch]

[djfordmanjack]

Old original paint is fantastic ! Hear me out please. One way, it could be possible to find an og paint fender, maybe ?
Otherwise, I still would NOT paint the whole rear fender. I know we are talking about saving 10 or 20% of og paint area on that fender. but if you give it a solid respray. it will look like a replacement fender. The shine and surface of the new paint will probably never match the og worn paint. touching up and blending the repaired areas will make it a visible repair to the ORIGINAL fender. That is huge difference. Again this is just my opinion, and I am glad you are thinking about keeping some og paint anyways.

ps: my og paint 67 bug has had the rear fenders resprayed in parts, about 40-50% along the fender edge, and the repaired paint does not match well , so I need to redo that. It would be so easy to paint the whole fender, but I won't. going to strip the repaint. buff whats left of the og and respray the repair areas again. sand and buff.
the rear fender on my old og paint survivor 56 oval (really extremely nice and strong paint on the rest of the car), had been resprayed twice and there was maybe only 30% of og paint left on that fender, but still, 2 paint guys before me went to great length, saving what was still there. Just a thought.
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Hotrods, Fords, Veedubs and Triumph Twins !

52 Barndoor DLX Coachbuild project
55 Wolfsburg panel project, og paint Taubenblau L31
62 Dickholmer, custom color Seeblau L360
63 1500 Notch, og paint Rubin Rot L456
67 1500 Käfer, og paint Lotus weiß L282 w/red interior

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t this point I really don't know what I will do about that fender.

One thing I was thinking of was to take it to the fellow who did the door bottoms on my beetle. He did an amazing job of matching the colour on the doors.

His paint mixer nailed the colours including getting the ultramaroon bang on.

We'll see, at this point it may be years in the future.

Glad to hear the input tho.

Don
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[djfordmanjack]

Very good work there ! Great to have capable guys around to rely on ! Looking forward to the rest of your build !
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Hotrods, Fords, Veedubs and Triumph Twins !

52 Barndoor DLX Coachbuild project
55 Wolfsburg panel project, og paint Taubenblau L31
62 Dickholmer, custom color Seeblau L360
63 1500 Notch, og paint Rubin Rot L456
67 1500 Käfer, og paint Lotus weiß L282 w/red interior

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mmm, delightful

I am out of primer now so I have to wait for my order to arrive, meanwhile...

Time for some surgery

O dear, far more rust than I was expecting.

This will have to be addressed before I can move forward

I wonder if I should attempt to reproduce this bit

If only the heater channels were for the right year car.

Of course this is more complex than I was expecting...

Don
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[Bobnotch]

[Rusty Floorpan]

Well, I came to The Samba tonight to read up on electrical, but instead followed through this whole captivating thread on a repair that I will never do to my '71. I bought the car as an absolute rust bucket, that was still driving pretty well, knowing full well that the extent of the body damage makes it more of a donor car (and death mobile) than anything else.

But I sure have loved seeing this surgery. Cheers, mate. I look forward to seeing your progress.

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[biffidum]

I may have missed it, but have you test-fit the door yet?

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A Christmas tradition

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1SqJ6TreVRQ

Don
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[Clatter]

Whoo! Some sweet work done on that door pillar my man.

Gives me flashbacks!
Those heaters and lower door pillar area are some complicated bits.
First investigation and you're all like WTF!?!?!

Because the type 3s have SO many layers in the heater channel area,
I'd recommend drilling a bunch of spot-welds and getting the outer layer or two pried off of there. Plug weld them back on after proper repairs of inner stuff.

The only way you'll get the inner layers properly attached together and inspected/rust-proofed is to get them uncovered for work.

All of those layers, especially the inners, need attached for the body to retain strength.
If there are cuts under the skin just floating that's no bueno.
Ya, a ton of spot-weld drilling, (and welding and grinding) but best results in the end and probably will ultimately take less time.


I gave up on the proper/correct job of making those funny seat-back door release cables work and just took the Tram way out.
Welded a lever on to the catch pawl under the seat base...
It's easy enough to reach back there and release the seat,
but not effortless and automatic like the original.
One of those small details that, now that the car is done, i really wish i woulda taken the long way around and done it right.
Part of the car's character that i restroyed...

Hope this helps.
People offer up their little opinions and here's mine. Take it FWIW.
Thanks for taking the time to post up.
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I have excellent news for the world...
There is no such thing as patina.
It does not exist!

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Thank you, I appreciate your words. Slow and steady for me, my goal is to have the drivers side done by spring and then see about assembling the chassis to make it back into a roller by summer.

Don
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[sunroof]

Decided to tackle the bottom of the A-pillar today after psyching myself up during the xmas holidays. Although one of the things about being retired is that you no longer get holidays. Anyways...

If you recall this nasty surprise

Out comes the cutoff wheel to find this

Well having learned my lesson the hard way twice now I thought it might be a good idea to get the door involved early.

And discovered this, drilled out bolts

I was going to start hunting through the boxes and bins for the door hardware but I don't think I'll bother now.

A few minutes with the abrasive wheel reveals this

I pushed out the remains of the bolts with a punch and ran a tap through the bolt holes and things came out very nicely. Both hinges will need attention. The top one is seized and the bottom one is badly worn. Major surgery is indicated.

While working on the door I noticed how dirty it was also the folded in mirror

and took some scotch brite and Simple Green and scrubbed the shit out of it. At least now I can see what I'm dealing with

Well rats

Honestly.

I don't know if I've mentioned this before but this is the tool I use to clean rust and paint off of metal parts

I hate giving that asshole Bezos my money but these abrasive disks are The Shit. You can use them right down to the nub and they tear the schmutz away like nothing. Amazon is the only place I have found them. When I show them to the body shop suppliers they just scratch their heads and tell me they have never seen anything like that before. Anyways back to the show.

A few minutes with the abrasive wheel

Now lets have a look at what I cut away

Separated the cover from the hinge mount

Also found a crack that will have to be dealt with

And into the Evaporust for these two parts.

Speaking of which... These two parts just came out of the Evaporust

I think I will have to fabricate this bit

All very pretty with a bit of primer

Don
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This afternoon I decided to go through all the bins and boxes of parts to find a little something

Of course there was no order to anything and whatever was thrown into whichever bin so there was a lot of sorting to do. I'm not quite finished but I'll do some more tomorrow

What made it worthwhile is that I actually found what I was looking for

Door mounting hardware, from Seat/Skoda/Volkswagen no less. The fellow who took the car apart actually spent a bit of money on new parts. I will document all that. Meanwhile I can bolt the door on!

Don
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A few mysteries among the parts, anyone know what these are?

These things looks important

Don
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