steering box

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IF a 75 brasil bus uses a 68-70 steering box in a vw splitty - no it doesn't its its own item
https://www.bus-ok.de/Type2-split-brasil-only-steering-box-LHD-67-83-OEM-partnr-211415049A
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/602172.jpg
and its a kdf unit like this with that machined part on the body for the clamp

my question then is
does the splitty steering box clamp fit a 72 onwards steering box - that was too new for the brasil, but ok in the europe?
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1090520.jpg
where that geared looking part is - maybe you need to tickle the inner valance
anyplops - is it a true twill roller bearing ball nut and worm like later steering boxes
if the input spline is 3/4'' 19.050mm and 36 splines or whatever
couldnt you fit a borgeson universal joint and run a 57 chevy power steering conversion inner shaft - fit a grant adaptor and run a empi banjo wheel
custon column or - 'just' a bit of tube

thanks

while i am on.....
if at the front they are running wide 5 wheels - but disc brakes on them brasil king and link pin spindles for 74 up m14 calipers
what are the hubs to get to wide 5, and can you swap them directly for 112mm pcd hubs and discs?

also at the rear, its bay irs but wide 5 with a turned down drum snout - i gather again I could just fit a later bay hub and drum - dont even need to bleed the brakes?


getting back to the steering boxes
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1132159.jpg

if a 68-70 box fits into a split screen clamp
does the 73 on bay window one do too?
are the clamps dextrous - i'd give my right arm to be etc etc


furthermore - IF you planned on doiing a rhd conversion
do you simply fit one of these
https://www.customandcommercial.com/vw-split_scree...rhd_21005/
wang in the steering box
ho hum
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yes so the machined surface on them there stewering gear boxes is what the split screen mount clamps onto

so you need a right hand drive 74 to 79 type 2 steering box
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take heed the pitman arm is specific to the later aluminium steering box so get one of them
the drag link taper is the same? - i dunno
you need a rhd centre doofer on the axle beam
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something about having a starting point with a slight more modern
steering 'gear' box with bolt on p[arts - no welding on the shaft - -horn wire not through a hollow shaft, but into the later style column ''upper collar'
erm, if you like ladies - seeing as the hot rodding aftermarket whatsname
is now making a bolt in electrimical style steering column
https://www.hotrod.com/articles/1201sr-electronic-power-steering/

i mean maybe you could like get a bolt in boombaclart set up specific to type 2 split
rhd lhd

and the complete kit is from if you like the steering box mount to frame
the steering 'gear' box
the electrmatronic column, non can bus just a assist , you do not pressure sensitive or nuffink like that maybe

the column has no key in it and basic, the collar is aftermarket but uses a common or garden turn signal switch from a bug - what ever they are that are repopped and cheap and available
vw or gm splined on the top for a typw 2 bay steering wheel, i dunno, maybe use a repop 1940 ford deluxe wheel that is 15 16 or whatever inches round
or a empi 35 ford style - no not 356 straight spoked banjo in cream, whatever like
or give the peeps the impetus to go forth and make a curved spok banjo in grant 3 hole or vw type 2 taper wedgemated spline

blah blah blah

bobs your auntie

again
blah blah blah
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you could then quite difficultly
take a left hand drive split screen van
buy the repop right hand drive chassis section
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something about being able to take a lhd split
weld in the rhd chassis member for steering box
BUT yes use the stock split screen mount
but also mod it some to cross bolt aswell

in the kit include a weld on servo mount or brake booster kit
with the push rod and brake booster / servo assist , with the corerect ytpe 2 brake master for servo and the pot and lines and resovoir for behind the seat
use the stock pedal
template to drill hole in florr or wang in a rhd floor panel
erm

hide the electrical column assistant under the dash pod
blah blah blah

run a modern speedometer with a pulse generator blah blah blah
get ride of the tiresome click click speedometer

bolt on a 36 spot tone ring and pick up on the front hub blah blah blah

so in ONE fell swoop and from the top you have

1. made the steering wheel smaller for comfort, as the ONLY reason they are massive is for levering effect on the steering18'' = 9'' lever - 15.5'' - twelvety
2. made the steering easier
3. fitted a modern turn signal self cancelling turn signal 'indicator' switch
added a modern if you want steering lock
4. added a collapseable steering rack
5. added a modern speedometer, that can be dialed in if changing the tyre circumference or the transmission gears
6. fitted a allominoominoom steering box steering gearbox from a 79 type 2, thats a tad 'quicker' in ration i beleive
7. lessened the fooking arse ache of getting the rass clart steering out of a boombaclart splitty
8.ugraded the brakes to a assisted pedal
9. retained all the vw steering geometry
10 . done a rhd drive conversion

just give me ten good reasons to leave you... I'll give you ten good reasons to stay, as your the only one I beleive in - etc etc

or if you like
someone give borgeson a split bus and an idea and let them do it.
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oh soz there are 11

11. the steering gearbox will actuall if you look at the brasil bay make the steering gearbox raise up some.

You raise me up so I can stand on mountains
You raise me up to walk on stormy seas
I am strong when I am on Your shoulders
You raise me up to more than I can be

etc etc

I mean, then you might even drive em...

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is a brake pedal or clutch pedal rhd lhd specific
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oh i get it....
on the split screen the pitman arm points upwards
on a late bay, it points downwards
=great
simply mount a left hand drive bay version with the pitman pointing up and bob is your auntie

or mount a rhd bay winder one really high
pitman down

its why its never been done before, its confusing
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so lets call the 74 up aluminium type 2 steering box a alloy type 2 steering box
if you fitted a left hand drive alloy bay box into a rhd bay ' if it fit hypoptheticall
due to the input being on the other side, with the pitman facing down it would turn the WRONG way

SO

IF you switched the pitman to point up 180 degrees IT would then return the direction to being correct

so what you need to do is fabracobble the weld in rhd split screen chassis leg to mimic a bay window version to land the pitman arm drag link rod end centre in the same place as stock

I thank you
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what is getting on my nerves is in 1979
https://www.heritagepartscentre.com/us/blog/should-I-replace-my-vw-steering-box-us.html
they are still using worm and roller - ok an inprovement from worm and peg
BUt 'others have moved to twin helical ball bearing steering gears YEARS prior

can you not just simply switch out the helical worms
i.e. use a rhd bay window box
mount it real high like stock and point the pitman down like a stock bay
BUT switch the worms and rollers to reverse it

would it matter - its simply the placement of the side of the input relative to the mounting bolts clocking - not really of any significance if the installllll is chustom?
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/363698465195?_skw=vw+ba...R-6r19v2ZA

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https://www.bus-ok.de/Type2-split-brasil-only-steering-box-LHD-67-83-OEM-partnr-211415049A
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/384049601412?_trkparms=...7P7XECNE54

so for arguments sake
if it has the same orientation as a rhd split screen, but the input is on the other side.
it will give you a less upright steering wheel

you would need to fabricate a new chassis section to mount it like a bay window version

you could do a box raise while you are at it - i think you may need to

p.s. a mustang or 57 chevrolet solid borgeson steering shaft is 31.25 inches long

if you like

what is the input shaft spline on a bay window, are quality aftermarkey jointsa available fo rthem
i.e. could you do a basic adjustable wheel position anyway?
alright you'd need to support the outer column at the bottom like a bay window lower colmn support, but its all abit basic anyway
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aha
so IF the bay window pitman arm or drop arm 'what-ever'
is actually shorter than the split
it 'shouls' be raised that much anyway - 10-15mm

could you in fact mount the box further rearward?
wind in the drag link to show a few threads rather than 20mm of them

raise it up
fashion a new chassis member , just do new laser cut clucth and brake pedals

do the servo mount at bean with stock mc
fit 10 ilb rear res valve in line
get signal from stock type 2 intake

is the bay box a quicker ratio

IF it did have a shorter pitman, forces and leverage and all that, does the steering become heavier?
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so thats the easy part out of the way
the premise kind of looks like it may work
save the clutch pedal hitting - whatever

the tricky part now is
do these boxes have a master lock out spline
if so due to changing the line of attack
AND when you rotate the pitman arm 180 - do you need to roll back one spline to correct the shaft input plane
if these are a 72-79 steering gear
are the pitman wedge mated splines different 68-72
can you buy new pitman arms and the input shaft part

will it clear the brake pedal
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