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ducmic Samba Member
Joined: May 28, 2013 Posts: 40
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 4:18 am Post subject: Traveling the USA with our ´70 Baywindow Bus |
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Hi,
my name is Michael from Braunschweig, Germany. I worked at Volkswagen at the engine design dept (sorry, only watercooled engines)
After 4 years of intensive travelling in a ´63 Split bus in Europe and Morocco, we changed it over for a ´70 Baywindow weekender. I bought it by Samba from NY 9 years ago. After 60k miles in Europe it gets time to ship it to the US and visit it´s home coutry.
We will arrive End of August in Halifax and will have a first time slot of three month until end of November.
We will start at the east coast to visit the old home adress of the Bus in Long Island and New York. I will also try to contact the first owner. He is retired and I found his name at an adress near NY. Next stop will be St.Petersburg, Fl to visit my sister...
After this, we are free to head where we want. I hope there will be some VW meetings on the way to visit. I just started to find some POI we have to see. The idea is to end anywhere in the west (because of the weather) after 3 month, store the car and come back in January to go down the Baja together with my daughter.
If you have any advices for me. May be meetings, junkyards, shops, lonely back roads or POI, please write...........
Totally happy to see you and your country
Michael
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 24356 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 4:38 am Post subject: Re: Traveling the USA with our ´70 Baywindow Bus |
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Wilkommen, Ducmic!
I’m in Port Jefferson area of Long Island so let me know your timing. Every first month Sunday we gather up vintage cars for Cars and Coffee and we have only lonely sage Green Bay Bus right now.
Pm me for communication here _________________ 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🍊 🍊 🍊 |
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Shonandb  Samba Member

Joined: January 12, 2019 Posts: 2243 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:07 am Post subject: Re: Traveling the USA with our ´70 Baywindow Bus |
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Welcome Michael!
There are a lot of POI's throughout the US so you may need about 10 years to see them all.
If you find yourself in the Pacific Northwest, there are VW meet ups a few times a month.
Feel free to reach out if you make it up to the Vancouver BC area in Canada. _________________ *******************************
76 Westy with a 2.5L Subaru SOHC + Vanagon (010) Automatic Transaxle
Build & Trip Thread: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=758760
Previous 1973 Panel Bus:
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli

Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 13354 Location: North Carolina
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dodger tom  Samba Member

Joined: March 25, 2013 Posts: 2055 Location: Central Coast, CA, but we're all still Ukrainian and Californian
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 1:00 pm Post subject: Re: Traveling the USA with our ´70 Baywindow Bus |
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welcome michael.
there is no place in the us of a that doesn’t have something worth seeing.
if you make it to the central coast of california, let me know. _________________ 1978 Champaign Edition 2 Westfalia
Would never find the time to keep up another classic air-cooled. |
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airschooled Air-Schooled

Joined: April 04, 2012 Posts: 13620 Location: West Coast, USA
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: Traveling the USA with our ´70 Baywindow Bus |
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I recommend skipping most of Southern California and getting straight to Baja. Far safer, cheaper, less crowded, and more welcoming.
Make sure you plan your trip west according to the elevation changes as well as mileage. What looks like a straight shot on a map could take 2-4 times as long in a bus due to elevation and the pure emptiness compared to other parts of the country. Gas can be more scarce… You’ll want an app like iOverlander if you plan on staying in free/public land campsites along the way. Unlike the east coast, not every square inch of the western US is covered in gates and “no trespassing” signs.
Enjoy your trip!
Robbie _________________ One-on-one tech help for your vintage Volkswagen:
www.airschooled.com
Road trip reports and tech blog:
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ducmic Samba Member
Joined: May 28, 2013 Posts: 40
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 1:43 pm Post subject: Re: Traveling the USA with our ´70 Baywindow Bus |
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Hi,
after starting the threat I got only one answer and wondered........but then I wake up. You are minimum 6h later then central european time
I will try to contact anybody there after we arrived and get near to the place you are living.
I ordered a map for the USA and take a box of needles to mark points that must be visited.
One of the first stops will be at Port Jefferson for Cars and Coffee and will visit the place where the Bus was located in Brookhaven.
Regars Michael |
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Lind Samba Member

Joined: November 06, 2000 Posts: 10266 Location: idaho
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Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 9:15 am Post subject: Re: Traveling the USA with our ´70 Baywindow Bus |
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In the middle of january there is a large VW campout, BBB (Buses By the Bridge) in Lake Havasu, Arizona. Well worth attending.
I think Mexico is fine as long as you aren't a surfer and don't have fancy tires. _________________ .
Wanted:
Idaho VW license plate frames or other dealership items.
VWoA literature and early dealership or distributor literature/pictures/information
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KTPhil  Samba Member

Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 36289 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 12:03 pm Post subject: Re: Traveling the USA with our ´70 Baywindow Bus |
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Yes, but you need to pay attention, and choose your routes carefully.
I drove the length of Baja with a friend who owns a condo near Cabo a couple of years ago; he wanted to leave the car there for their use, so we made a trip of it, flying back. Three days of fantastic drives, views, meals, and people. Once we got 100 miles south of the border, I felt safer. Seek advice on what to bring (and not to bring) and where to drive and stay, and you'll be fine.
I also suggest you make sure to include the Pacific Coast Highway (CA-1) on your travels. Catch some central coast VW folks on the way. _________________ Current Fleet:
- '71 Fastback
- '69 Westfalia
Retired:
- '67 Beetle
- '65 Beetle (x2)
- '65 Bus
- '71 Squareback |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 24356 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: Traveling the USA with our ´70 Baywindow Bus |
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ducmic Samba Member
Joined: May 28, 2013 Posts: 40
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Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:46 pm Post subject: Re: Traveling the USA with our ´70 Baywindow Bus |
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| Lind wrote: |
In the middle of january there is a large VW campout, BBB (Buses By the Bridge) in Lake Havasu, Arizona. Well worth attending.
I think Mexico is fine as long as you aren't a surfer and don't have fancy tires. |
Thanks for "BBB". This afternoon I cheked YT for some videos. Seams to be a good meeting to meet nice people. I have to add it to the calender!!!!!
January is normaly no the time for camping but my Bus ist equiped with a petrol heater since we had a very, very cold summer trip in the north of Scotland 2017 with our Split window bus.
We added 195/80-15 A/T tires since our second Morocco trip on all our Busses...........and I am not a surfer
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ducmic Samba Member
Joined: May 28, 2013 Posts: 40
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Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:52 pm Post subject: Re: Traveling the USA with our ´70 Baywindow Bus |
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It seams better, not to read this  |
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NJ John Samba Member

Joined: September 21, 2007 Posts: 3015 Location: HdG, MD & NJ
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Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 11:13 am Post subject: Re: Traveling the USA with our ´70 Baywindow Bus |
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If your coming down the RT95 corridor. In Maryland check out on Facebook, Harford County Vintage Volkswagens. They meet usually once a week. Or you can stop at my empanada restaurant. We can maybe work it out with the club and have a VW gathering. All this is right off RT95 in north eastern Maryland. _________________ 1973 standard, yellow, lowered, 3” narrowed front, 1600 blo-thru turbo w/single dell 15.4@86, so far
11.41 et buggy. Long gone
Let’s go O’s! Let’s go O’s!
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my59 Samba Member

Joined: August 13, 2003 Posts: 4007 Location: connecting the dots
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Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: Traveling the USA with our ´70 Baywindow Bus |
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Having driven the I95 corridor Maine to Florida more than once, i'd be looking at alternate routes for driving a bus.
I95 is a shit way to "see the country" on the East Coast.
It all depends on how much time you have. I've a penchant for staying near the coast rather than go inland.
Parts of RT1 in Maine, Acadia national park, to Brunswick are nice driving. Between Portland Maine and Boston, the choices of route narrow, same as they do between Boston And NYC.
RT 1 near population centers typically turns into big box stores, strip malls, and traffic lights. This is where getting on an interstate highway makes sense and will improve gas milage with reduced frustration of having to slow down and stop endlessly.
From NYC south, consider the Cape May ferry from NJ to Delaware, then eastern shore MD to the bridge tunnel to Norfolk. Or ferry ride and head to Annapolis MD, then follow 301 to 17 to Yorktown VA.
RT 13 and 17 south outside of Norfolk wander through North Carolina. 17 will get you well into Florida. _________________ my59: Well son, my grandfather died before I got to drive it, so does that answer your question?
our79: sunroof bus w/camper interior and 2.0 FI
Other:'12 Jetta, '77 Benz 300D, and a 74 MG Midget. |
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CanStan Samba Member

Joined: October 16, 2005 Posts: 1118 Location: Calgary, AB
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Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 2:04 pm Post subject: Re: Traveling the USA with our ´70 Baywindow Bus |
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| ducmic wrote: |
It seams better, not to read this  |
I wouldn’t let those articles worry you. One is from a year ago, and the other a decade ago.
A LOT of worse shit has happened in every city in the USA since then. Be safe, but don’t travel scared. |
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dodger tom  Samba Member

Joined: March 25, 2013 Posts: 2055 Location: Central Coast, CA, but we're all still Ukrainian and Californian
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Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: Traveling the USA with our ´70 Baywindow Bus |
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i respectfully disagree with robbie. southern california is full of things to see and do, and has plenty of friendly people. like robbie.
plus, some of the world’s best beer is brewed there.
being german, i assume you like beer. _________________ 1978 Champaign Edition 2 Westfalia
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli

Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 13354 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 6:01 pm Post subject: Re: Traveling the USA with our ´70 Baywindow Bus |
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| CanStan wrote: |
| ducmic wrote: |
It seams better, not to read this  |
I wouldn’t let those articles worry you. One is from a year ago, and the other a decade ago.
A LOT of worse shit has happened in every city in the USA since then. Be safe, but don’t travel scared. |
Dude, that was just some of the more high profile examples, Mexico has 4x the annual murder rate of the US, and that doesn’t include those that just go missing.
Sure, there are definitely areas of the US that I would suggest to stay away from also, but those typically aren’t places that tourists wanna go anyway. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 24356 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 1:11 am Post subject: Re: Traveling the USA with our ´70 Baywindow Bus |
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Using aggregate statistics as a surrogate for safety is a poor strategy.
Leaving Germany, you have already made a 8x jump in murder “ risk” coming to the US, most Americans who fear travel to Mexico fear brown people more than murder rates. This happens from watching too much “Narcos” _________________ 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🍊 🍊 🍊 |
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Cusser Samba Member

Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 33420 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 8:04 am Post subject: Re: Traveling the USA with our ´70 Baywindow Bus |
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| TDCTDI wrote: |
| Mexico has 4x the annual murder rate of the US. |
| Abscate wrote: |
| Leaving Germany, you have already made a 8x jump in murder “ risk” coming to the US. |
In USA, some murderers actually become cult heroes !
OJ
Menendez brothers
Luigi
Blake
Kohlberger _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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CanStan Samba Member

Joined: October 16, 2005 Posts: 1118 Location: Calgary, AB
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 8:14 am Post subject: Re: Traveling the USA with our ´70 Baywindow Bus |
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| Abscate wrote: |
| Leaving Germany, you have already made a 8x jump in murder “ risk” coming to the US... |
This^^^^^. Thank you. I was just going to point this out.
If you're going to encourage him to avoid Mexico based on murder stats, it would only make sense to use those exact same stats to discourage him from coming to the USA, since that's an even more dangerous leap to begin with.
I want to be sensitive to what's happened over in the Vanagon forum over the last couple weeks, since we don't know all the details, but lets be honest here- if you're not involved in the drug trade, gangs, or a violent domestic relationship, the chances of being killed by a complete stranger are staggeringly low.
Again, travel safe. But don't travel scared.
It sounds like an awesome trip! Have a great time! |
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