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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 4:00 am    Post subject: Mysterious lonely cables Vanagon Westfalia 1982 Reply with quote

Hi, there.

I took out the Dash to fix the heat core, meanwhile I found a 3 cable loom going from the dash, going up the A pilar, and back to rear cabinet area. Seems to me they were courtesy light? Does someone have any knowledge about them? Where should I connect them?

I would appreciate any help, thank you!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 4:34 am    Post subject: Re: Mysterious lonely cables Vanagon Westfalia 1982 Reply with quote

97% those are rear speaker wires.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 11:06 am    Post subject: Re: Mysterious lonely cables Vanagon Westfalia 1982 Reply with quote

MarkWard wrote:
97% those are rear speaker wires.


100% right you are!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 12:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Mysterious lonely cables Vanagon Westfalia 1982 Reply with quote

Don’t disregard those wires- for a low amperage circuit, you can repurpose that cable to power LED lighting. or maybe a microfan.

I used ours to power up two LED pod lights in the Cargo area as work lights when needed.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 5:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Mysterious lonely cables Vanagon Westfalia 1982 Reply with quote

MarkWard wrote:
97% those are rear speaker wires.


Seriously? Brick wall

Mark, huge thanks! I was braking my head trying to figure out what they were for. Never went through my mind that they could be speaker wires but now that you mention it, makes a lot of sense; distance, position. Etc

I appreciate it!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 5:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Mysterious lonely cables Vanagon Westfalia 1982 Reply with quote

ALIKA T3 wrote:
MarkWard wrote:
97% those are rear speaker wires.


100% right you are!


Thank you! I was having zero idea.

I really thought they were courtesy lights. Just on time for the new stereo installation.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 5:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Mysterious lonely cables Vanagon Westfalia 1982 Reply with quote

jlrftype7 wrote:
Don’t disregard those wires- for a low amperage circuit, you can repurpose that cable to power LED lighting. or maybe a microfan.


Those LED Spot Lights in warm color are amazing! Great idea. We figured out they were speaker wires. I’ll let them for the speakers , but I will add 2 or 3 more wires for a future illumination or ventilation as you said. Thanks for the idea!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 5:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Mysterious lonely cables Vanagon Westfalia 1982 Reply with quote

I’m not a stereo person, but VW originally shared the ground between both rear speakers, hence only 3. My understanding and newer stereo heads use separate grounds for L and R. There are ground splitters I recall reading, but running new good quality speaker wire now would be easy.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 5:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Mysterious lonely cables Vanagon Westfalia 1982 Reply with quote

MarkWard wrote:
I’m not a stereo person, but VW originally shared the ground between both rear speakers, hence only 3. My understanding and newer stereo heads use separate grounds for L and R. There are ground splitters I recall reading, but running new good quality speaker wire now would be easy.



Very interesting, I wasn’t aware that is better to have separate grounds for speakers.

As you, I have never given much interest in stereos or music, but since my wife loves music; I rather give the extra mile, add new cables and let those ones for extra illustration.

I ordered a cheap stereo with rear camera, my first motivation was the parking camera haha.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 12:58 am    Post subject: Re: Mysterious lonely cables Vanagon Westfalia 1982 Reply with quote

It's a floating ground adapter. I learnt about them here on TheSamba after pulling a 4th wire Laughing
https://www.crutchfield.com/S-0fPLSVyn1Yi/p_142FGA/Scosche-FGA-Floating-Ground-Adapter.html

The whole Westy interior was out to retrofit factory power locks anyway Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 4:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Mysterious lonely cables Vanagon Westfalia 1982 Reply with quote

adel14 wrote:
jlrftype7 wrote:
Don’t disregard those wires- for a low amperage circuit, you can repurpose that cable to power LED lighting. or maybe a microfan.


Those LED Spot Lights in warm color are amazing! Great idea. We figured out they were speaker wires. I’ll let them for the speakers , but I will add 2 or 3 more wires for a future illumination or ventilation as you said. Thanks for the idea!
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It was probably this one.
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