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sidemarkers Samba Member

Joined: January 26, 2014 Posts: 104 Location: AZ
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2025 5:18 pm Post subject: Pertronix 90amp alternator |
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Just swapped out my 50 amp alternator for a 90 amp. When the rpm is below 750 and the alt dash light is on it sounds great. As soon as the alt light goes off at 1000 rpm and above, the alternator howls and sounds like hell. |
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Glenn  Mr. 010

Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 79425 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2025 5:33 pm Post subject: Re: Pertronix 90amp alternator |
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Bad bearings.
No surprise _________________ Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
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sidemarkers Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2025 5:56 pm Post subject: Re: Pertronix 90amp alternator |
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Glenn wrote: |
Bad bearings.
No surprise |
Bad bearings in a new alternator? |
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Dale M. Samba Member

Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20799 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2025 6:22 pm Post subject: Re: Pertronix 90amp alternator |
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sidemarkers wrote: |
Glenn wrote: |
Bad bearings.
No surprise |
Bad bearings in a new alternator? |
Poor quality bearings.... _________________ “Fear The Government That Wants To Take Your Guns"
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sidemarkers Samba Member

Joined: January 26, 2014 Posts: 104 Location: AZ
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2025 6:32 pm Post subject: Re: Pertronix 90amp alternator |
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It certainly does sound like bad bearings. I filed a claim with Jegs and will be calling pertronix tomorrow directly |
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Glenn  Mr. 010

Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 79425 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2025 7:00 pm Post subject: Re: Pertronix 90amp alternator |
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sidemarkers wrote: |
Glenn wrote: |
Bad bearings.
No surprise |
Bad bearings in a new alternator? |
I bet it's made in China with inferior bearings.
Yes... sure. _________________ Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
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modok Samba Member

Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 27652 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2025 7:09 pm Post subject: Re: Pertronix 90amp alternator |
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It's junk? ok
Thanks for the honest review |
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sidemarkers Samba Member

Joined: January 26, 2014 Posts: 104 Location: AZ
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2025 7:49 pm Post subject: Re: Pertronix 90amp alternator |
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Just removed the 90 amp alternator and replaced with the old 50 amp. Used the same fan, shroud, pulley, belt, clamp, keyways, everything. The noise is gone with the 50 amp. Had to make sure the return was warranted... because I don't want to be THAT guy |
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Rob Combs Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2020 Posts: 476 Location: South Bay LA, California
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 8:40 am Post subject: Re: Pertronix 90amp alternator |
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Radical idea here
If you really want that 90 A alternator, timken sealed ball bearings are about 6 bucks apiece and pretty easy to install.
I get it; you shouldn’t have to rebuild a brand new part.
I for one have just accepted that nearly nothing is ready to install straight out of the box and will need at least something done to make it work right. |
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mikedjames Samba Member

Joined: July 02, 2012 Posts: 3304 Location: Hamble, Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 8:47 am Post subject: Re: Pertronix 90amp alternator |
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For that one alternator that got dropped on its spindle, or had a bad bearing assembled, there will be ten that actually work perfectly from the same factory. They will be so cheap for the importer they can take the hit on the returns..
Like one major retailer over here in the UK selling clothes made in China, at one stage: for every seven containers of clothes shipped over, they would fill one container with returns that they identified before they even went out into the store..
I fitted a no-name 75A Chinese alternator a couple of years back and it just works. _________________ Ancient vehicles and vessels
1974 VW T2 : Devon Eurovette camper with 1641 DP T1 engine, Progressive carb, full flow oil cooler, EDIS crank timed ignition.
Engine 1: 40k miles (rocker shaft clip fell off), Engine 2: 30k miles (rebuild, dropped valve). Engine 3: a JK Preservation Parts "new" engine, aluminium case: 26k miles: new top end.
Gearbox rebuild 2021 by Bears.
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sidemarkers Samba Member

Joined: January 26, 2014 Posts: 104 Location: AZ
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 10:24 am Post subject: Re: Pertronix 90amp alternator |
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Spoke with Jeg's and Andy at pertronix, both were polite and gracious to assist with the return and replace process.
Looking forward to having 90 amps at my disposal. 50 amps was fine with all my electronics, but using the lights at night put me over the limit |
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tattooed_pariah Samba Member

Joined: April 24, 2006 Posts: 2063 Location: El Cajon, CA
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 12:28 pm Post subject: Re: Pertronix 90amp alternator |
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Agree with the for every one bad, 9 are good posted above.. I've been running that same alternator for close to 10 years with no issue.. Well, I think it's the same, Got it from ACN back in the day, think it was advertised as the Dual Cool 90amp Alt due to internal fans or something.. Dunno, just know it works for me.. _________________ -pariah
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liquidrush Samba Member
Joined: July 18, 2018 Posts: 761 Location: MO
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 1:55 pm Post subject: Re: Pertronix 90amp alternator |
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If you switch to all LED lights you can keep your original alternator. They hardly draw anything. |
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oprn Samba Member

Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 14707 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: Pertronix 90amp alternator |
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I have been following this thread and wondering what the heck you are trying to power in an antique car that is drawing that much current...
My buzz box stick welder only goes to 90 amps! _________________ Our cars get old, we get old but driving an old VW never gets old! |
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BFB Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 4:21 pm Post subject: Re: Pertronix 90amp alternator |
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HID lights are a killer , but aside from them my rail has electric fuel pump, external oil cooler fan, and an LED light bar plus a few other odds n ends and a 55 amp alt couldnt keep up and charge the battery so i switched to a 90amp _________________ "how am i supposed to torque the rear wheel nut to 250 ft lbs??? " - clonebug
An interesting thing happens in forums where everyone starts parroting the same thing and "common knowledge" takes over.
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Rob Combs Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2020 Posts: 476 Location: South Bay LA, California
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 5:41 pm Post subject: Re: Pertronix 90amp alternator |
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Guess I just got unlucky with mine - it howls like hell and has since new. I just didn't have the time or energy to pull it back off of there and line up a replacement. (I needed the car daily at the time.) I also have quite a few consumers on board that eat up some amperage.
Just rebuilt the one I took off so I'd have something for my ongoing engine build. Cheap and easy to do if the major parts are still ok and all you need are bearings, a brush block, and voltage regulator for good measure.
To each their own I suppose... |
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sidemarkers Samba Member

Joined: January 26, 2014 Posts: 104 Location: AZ
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 9:00 pm Post subject: Re: Pertronix 90amp alternator |
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oprn wrote: |
I have been following this thread and wondering what the heck you are trying to power in an antique car that is drawing that much current...
My buzz box stick welder only goes to 90 amps! |
SDS engine management
Bosch 044 pump
pair of 8 inch electric fans,1 per intercooler
Innovate boost controller/ O2 meter
electric windows
air compressor
AEM water injection
Original harness covers the stock stuff. Relays and bus bars for the big amp stuff |
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sidemarkers Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 9:03 pm Post subject: Re: Pertronix 90amp alternator |
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tattooed_pariah wrote: |
Agree with the for every one bad, 9 are good posted above.. I've been running that same alternator for close to 10 years with no issue.. Well, I think it's the same, Got it from ACN back in the day, think it was advertised as the Dual Cool 90amp Alt due to internal fans or something.. Dunno, just know it works for me.. |
Mine was the dual cool too. Is yours any louder than a stocker? |
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tattooed_pariah Samba Member

Joined: April 24, 2006 Posts: 2063 Location: El Cajon, CA
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 9:46 pm Post subject: Re: Pertronix 90amp alternator |
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sidemarkers wrote: |
tattooed_pariah wrote: |
Agree with the for every one bad, 9 are good posted above.. I've been running that same alternator for close to 10 years with no issue.. Well, I think it's the same, Got it from ACN back in the day, think it was advertised as the Dual Cool 90amp Alt due to internal fans or something.. Dunno, just know it works for me.. |
Mine was the dual cool too. Is yours any louder than a stocker? |
probably, but i'm also running A-1 headers with the race bullet "muffler" that's essentially a foot long pipe with a 3"ID and no baffles..  _________________ -pariah
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DesertSasquatchXploration Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 11:03 pm Post subject: Re: Pertronix 90amp alternator |
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I did a new generator with my top end refresh guess what it had 1/4 of end play. Did I return it NO Pulled the end caps it was missing the shim/spacers so used the lathe and made some. This is what we have now you just need to play the game finish the job and get it done. Instead of bitching expand your knowledge and ability. _________________ Key is to have downward travel Preload keep both wheels on the ground at all times once you lift a tire your DONE. Guys worry about clearance instead think of the opposite you want the suspension to drop that tire in the hole and keep you going. A spider for example they keep their body low but their legs can reach pretty far so they don't (bottom out) |
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