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timdhawk Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2024 Posts: 40 Location: MT
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 7:51 am Post subject: Help with '70 bug rear defroster re-wiring |
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Any tips or tricks for running new wire thru the body up to the factory rear window defroster holes? |
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OldSchoolVW's  Samba Member

Joined: July 03, 2020 Posts: 1395 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 9:10 am Post subject: Re: Help with '70 bug rear defroster re-wiring |
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After 50+ years, most/all of these are cooked and no longer work. You might want to test it to see if it still works before putting any time and effort into rewiring. _________________ Tom
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KTPhil  Samba Member

Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 35832 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 9:39 am Post subject: Re: Help with '70 bug rear defroster re-wiring |
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X2!
Even if it looks fine, test it!
The orange/brown lines you see are NOT the conductive heating element. It is a primer that lets the actual conductive material stick to the glass. In time, the conductive material evaporates away and no longer heats. The primer remains. _________________ Current Fleet:
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Cusser Samba Member

Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 33023 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 12:05 pm Post subject: Re: Help with '70 bug rear defroster re-wiring |
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My experience with the rear window defroster on my 1970 (mine since 1972):
Even when it works, it doesn't work !!! _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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timdhawk Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2024 Posts: 40 Location: MT
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:43 am Post subject: Re: Help with '70 bug rear defroster re-wiring |
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OldSchoolVW's wrote: |
After 50+ years, most/all of these are cooked and no longer work. You might want to test it to see if it still works before putting any time and effort into rewiring. |
I should have mentioned she is a full resto and is down to bare metal so I have access to things and all the glass is out.
I was wondering if anyone has replaced the wires and how they got thru the foam of death. Or is it even worth the head ache...? |
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jinx758 Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2014 Posts: 1022 Location: half a bubble from plumb
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 11:32 am Post subject: Re: Help with '70 bug rear defroster re-wiring |
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A STIFF piece of wire or partial "fish tape" might be the ticket.
I have a metal one on a reel & a fiberglass screw together that I use for tons of wires, mostly buildings tho.
Perhaps check the continuity of the grid inside your back window in many spots. Over decades gaps may be present & render it non functional. Could fake the wires just for looks.
Back in '93-ish I got SUPER frustrated trying to get the 5% window tint to not bubble on the rear of my '74. I removed it but still had to do it in 2 parts. Put the bottom on, let it dry, & then the top piece. There was a teeny-tiny line across the middle but wasn't visible past 10feet. Good enuff as the popouts were easy.
Good luck ... stay safe
jinx
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my3bugs Samba Member
Joined: June 18, 2003 Posts: 825 Location: Moreno Valley
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2025 11:41 am Post subject: Re: Help with '70 bug rear defroster re-wiring |
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no real help from me but sharing how mine is ......there is what looks to be an original grey plastic looking toggle switch under the dash on my 70 bug , when i turn it on a blue light comes on in the speedo near the rear window defrost thing indicating its on , but i cant confirm it works ..... here in the california desert , i have yet to see my rear window fog up  |
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OldSchoolVW's  Samba Member

Joined: July 03, 2020 Posts: 1395 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2025 1:13 pm Post subject: Re: Help with '70 bug rear defroster re-wiring |
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my3bugs wrote: |
no real help from me but sharing how mine is ......there is what looks to be an original grey plastic looking toggle switch under the dash on my 70 bug , when i turn it on a blue light comes on in the speedo near the rear window defrost thing indicating its on , but i cant confirm it works ..... here in the california desert , i have yet to see my rear window fog up  |
I had the same switch on my '69. It's connected to a relay under the backseat for the rear defogger. If the elements in the rear window are toast, one can repurpose the switch for something like fog lights or daytime running lights and have the dash indicator to remind you they are on. That switch is pretty frail though, so it would be necessary to use it with a relay. _________________ Tom
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tzepesh Samba Member
Joined: May 28, 2003 Posts: 885 Location: Romania
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2025 11:06 pm Post subject: Re: Help with '70 bug rear defroster re-wiring |
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Tie together the new wire to the old wire, then pull the old wire. There is foam inside the C pillar , you will not be able to pull it through otherwise. If you are restoring the Bug, you should also remove the death foam. If you do, it is easier to insert a solid wire and then pull the wire you want to use. _________________ '74 1303S, L98B Viperngrun (extra glitter), German Look
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