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The Pilch Samba Member

Joined: December 04, 2013 Posts: 728 Location: Utah
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2025 7:47 pm Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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tcoop1100 wrote: |
Beautiful, Gary. A car to be proud of. You deserve a round of bows. |
Thank you my dude - I have to say a big thank you to the wifey, Julia and Lando...here we are at 9pm Sunday, ruffled, hot, feeling the burn, but we piled in Ringo for a happy photo!!
_________________ '85 Vanagon GL, weekender package, 1.9 wbx named Freddie/ '61 Beetle named Ringo/ '78 Dodge Monaco which is nothing like the Bluesmobile so please don't cast that oily rag upon it. |
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RobE30 Samba Member
Joined: June 30, 2009 Posts: 64 Location: Coopersburg PA
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 7:00 am Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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The Pilch wrote: |
tcoop1100 wrote: |
Beautiful, Gary. A car to be proud of. You deserve a round of bows. |
Thank you my dude - I have to say a big thank you to the wifey, Julia and Lando...here we are at 9pm Sunday, ruffled, hot, feeling the burn, but we piled in Ringo for a happy photo!!
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Perfect day to post a family pic in Ringo considering it's Ringo's birthday! 7/7
Car looks great! Certainly takes a village to make these cars happen. |
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Apostle_ Samba Member

Joined: July 02, 2023 Posts: 104 Location: Texas
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 8:37 am Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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Awesome family photo. Ringo looks great! |
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The Pilch Samba Member

Joined: December 04, 2013 Posts: 728 Location: Utah
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 8:05 pm Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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@RobE30 - yes!! It is 7/7 what a coincidence!! Thanks for bringing that to our attention!! And thanks everyone!!
After work today I just wanted to potter around, it's so hot and I'm tired from my ridiculous job, so...
I have these running boards...
...which I don't like how they reflect the ribs in my paint...
Kinda reminds me of some tacky decal that one would have found on a Renault 5 Le Car or something equally as schizer.
So...
I masked it off and sprayed them with truck bed liner...
But I left the leading edge glossy, and I masked off the first rib for effect. I think I like it...
_________________ '85 Vanagon GL, weekender package, 1.9 wbx named Freddie/ '61 Beetle named Ringo/ '78 Dodge Monaco which is nothing like the Bluesmobile so please don't cast that oily rag upon it. |
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scarabee Samba Member
Joined: May 14, 2021 Posts: 154 Location: South Africa
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 2:28 am Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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Yip, that looks much better. |
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vwuberalles Samba Member

Joined: October 18, 2003 Posts: 1473 Location: Richmond, VA
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The Pilch Samba Member

Joined: December 04, 2013 Posts: 728 Location: Utah
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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vwuberalles wrote: |
Oh wow the running boards look great! I've had those same ones on my 73 since the 90s and never totally loved them, I might have to give that a try. |
Thanks guys!! I just used Rustoleum Truck Bed Liner from a rattle can.
So a long time ago, in a galaxy far far away, I started putting the glass and door seals and the like, back in.
Me and Clyde were stumped due to excessive tight fit of the side windows, regardless of how much we messed with the wing window post, we deduced that stock side window glass + new seals and felts = "you have to shave 1/4" off the glass, man, it's too tight"....so I did.
Diamond Grind Tool for the Dremel...it was working...
It took a while, but after maybe ten minutes I had about an inch filed off.
I went inside to "point Percy at the Porcelain", came back out, looked at my window from about two feet away, and
BOOOOOMMMMMM
It exploded without me even touching it. Sunsabitch. Well I'd call that a fail.
While messaging my mate Dave for the chance he has a new side window, I put my ill-fitting WW rear license plate illuminator thingy on..
Bummer. Tomorrow is a new day. Clyde will be over Saturday to rock these tight windows back in.
I'm going to do some research on the Samba, but within my own thread can I ask you guys...any of you had new seals/felts etc for your doors, and found the main glass (the up n down window) to be so tight it feels impossible to get in between the new felts? What did you do? Help needed!
Cheers fellas! _________________ '85 Vanagon GL, weekender package, 1.9 wbx named Freddie/ '61 Beetle named Ringo/ '78 Dodge Monaco which is nothing like the Bluesmobile so please don't cast that oily rag upon it. |
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OldSchoolVW's  Samba Member

Joined: July 03, 2020 Posts: 1395 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 9:40 pm Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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Awesome work as always, Gary! Hats off to your "crew" for the all-hands-on-deck effort!
As you've noticed, tempered glass doesn't like to be tampered with. I'm surprised you were able to remove as much as you did without it shattering. I don't have a solution for the tight fit, but if you still have the old seals/felts, you could pull the new ones and compare them to the old ones. Modifying the new ones to more closely match the old ones might be needed. Jus' sayin' _________________ Tom
"Following distance is proportional to IQ."
"If you don't do it this year, you'll be one year older when you do." Warren Miller
"Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing." Wernher von Braun
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'69 Beetle Sunroof
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The Pilch Samba Member

Joined: December 04, 2013 Posts: 728 Location: Utah
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 10:03 pm Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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OldSchoolVW's wrote: |
Awesome work as always, Gary! Hats off to your "crew" for the all-hands-on-deck effort!
As you've noticed, tempered glass doesn't like to be tampered with. I'm surprised you were able to remove as much as you did without it shattering. I don't have a solution for the tight fit, but if you still have the old seals/felts, you could pull the new ones and compare them to the old ones. Modifying the new ones to more closely match the old ones might be needed. Jus' sayin' |
Thanks Tom!! Hope you are doing well. You're right about tempered glass. I read so much about it on the tittynet, that you can do this and that with it...well, turns out if you do this, that happens, so I am now in a frantic search for a replacement. Fingers crossed. We will modify the new felts as you suggest. I have some silicone spray and a Chris Vallone video on hand. Wish me luck! _________________ '85 Vanagon GL, weekender package, 1.9 wbx named Freddie/ '61 Beetle named Ringo/ '78 Dodge Monaco which is nothing like the Bluesmobile so please don't cast that oily rag upon it. |
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OldSchoolVW's  Samba Member

Joined: July 03, 2020 Posts: 1395 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 10:17 pm Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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The Pilch wrote: |
so I am now in a frantic search for a replacement. |
Maybe check with these guys up in Ogden ...
https://www.windshieldogden.com/antique-auto-glass-replacement/
Then there's always Avery's in Kelso, WA. Not exactly around the corner, but they do ship everywhere and probably have more than a couple sitting on a rack:
https://averysaircooled.com _________________ Tom
"Following distance is proportional to IQ."
"If you don't do it this year, you'll be one year older when you do." Warren Miller
"Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing." Wernher von Braun
'63 Beetle Sedan
'69 Beetle Sunroof
'70 Beetle Sedan
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slave1pilot Samba Member

Joined: February 22, 2010 Posts: 1107 Location: Yuba City CA
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 8:44 am Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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The Pilch wrote: |
any of you had new seals/felts etc for your doors, and found the main glass (the up n down window) to be so tight it feels impossible to get in between the new felts? What did you do? Help needed!
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Yes sir.
Ol' Herb got all new felts, scrapers, lift channels, tracks, seals, and vent windows. (My build is here https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0 )
Absolute bear to roll the windows up or down and it's so bad it pulls the glass out of the lift channels. I had hoped it would "wear in" and get easier. It has not yet
what I've tried:
I pushed the vent window bar as far forward as it would go. that helped "some" (but makes my vent windows a little harder to close"
I pried the felt open a little with my plastic trim tools and that seemed to help "some"
I tried bar soap, and that seemed to help "some"
I am now adding graphite powder into the channels to help ease the operation, and that helps "some"
Nothing seems to fix it yet, so I push the window down with one hand and crank with the other. _________________ Currently:
1959 pan with a 64 body and a 63 ragtop grafted in Herbie replica
Previously:
1967 Beetle
1968 Beetle
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The Pilch Samba Member

Joined: December 04, 2013 Posts: 728 Location: Utah
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 5:36 pm Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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slave1pilot wrote: |
The Pilch wrote: |
any of you had new seals/felts etc for your doors, and found the main glass (the up n down window) to be so tight it feels impossible to get in between the new felts? What did you do? Help needed!
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Yes sir.
Ol' Herb got all new felts, scrapers, lift channels, tracks, seals, and vent windows. (My build is here https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0 )
Absolute bear to roll the windows up or down and it's so bad it pulls the glass out of the lift channels. I had hoped it would "wear in" and get easier. It has not yet
what I've tried:
I pushed the vent window bar as far forward as it would go. that helped "some" (but makes my vent windows a little harder to close"
I pried the felt open a little with my plastic trim tools and that seemed to help "some"
I tried bar soap, and that seemed to help "some"
I am now adding graphite powder into the channels to help ease the operation, and that helps "some"
Nothing seems to fix it yet, so I push the window down with one hand and crank with the other. |
Thank you for your response - I've been frantically researching this PITA subject and I have found three important parts out...
Pt1) This... https://youtu.be/82BL3kGrqbY?si=yq-hPQBiQzozKqqr
Chris seems to be very adamant that all the nuts, bolts and screws should be loose, and tightened once the glass is in.
Pt2) DON'T use silicone spray, as my friend Dave at VGM has seen countless times the silicone eat away at the felt channels, making them separate. I'm not sure if it's just the cheap crap that comes from JBugs, or the top end quality stuff, or all of them, but I have the German quality ones from CIP1 and I am not going to risk it. Baby powder/talc or graphite spray/powder is good though.
Pt3) I'll tell you on Saturday afternoon!
Dave had a side window, for $50...considering I couldn't find ANY around here, I feel very lucky!
I also bought an ignition switch as it's a fairly important part needed to crank Ringo, which is coming soon!
Out to the garage, pottering about like a pottering.....ummm....thing. _________________ '85 Vanagon GL, weekender package, 1.9 wbx named Freddie/ '61 Beetle named Ringo/ '78 Dodge Monaco which is nothing like the Bluesmobile so please don't cast that oily rag upon it. |
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The Pilch Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 8:41 pm Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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I installed the ignition switch, so here's a couple of gratuitous dashboard shots now that it kinda resembles a car dash again...
Looking forward to making more progress tomorrow after work when it's happy Friday!! _________________ '85 Vanagon GL, weekender package, 1.9 wbx named Freddie/ '61 Beetle named Ringo/ '78 Dodge Monaco which is nothing like the Bluesmobile so please don't cast that oily rag upon it. |
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The Pilch Samba Member

Joined: December 04, 2013 Posts: 728 Location: Utah
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2025 8:06 pm Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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Happy Friday everyone!!
Today, I was glad to get a cheap deal on some body moldings. I am trying to get back onto a budget, and not overspend.
Of course, the kit does NOT come with clips, and I only managed to salvage around 18 clips. And of course, the kit doesn't fit very well, but this car is supposed to be a driver, so I'll just live with it. Medium happy.
Tomorrow - door glass, doors on, windshield in...that's the goal. _________________ '85 Vanagon GL, weekender package, 1.9 wbx named Freddie/ '61 Beetle named Ringo/ '78 Dodge Monaco which is nothing like the Bluesmobile so please don't cast that oily rag upon it. |
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scrivyscriv Samba Electrician

Joined: October 04, 2011 Posts: 3342 Location: Memphis
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2025 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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Not bad old man. I hope you aren't afraid to drive it when you're done  _________________ Robert in Memphis
Dünkelgrügen 1967 Java Green bug thread
Engine rebuild thread
If you're ever in the Memphis area, you are welcome to stop by for advice and help. |
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The Pilch Samba Member

Joined: December 04, 2013 Posts: 728 Location: Utah
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 11:47 am Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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scrivyscriv wrote: |
Not bad old man. I hope you aren't afraid to drive it when you're done  |
I have to be strong. Drive it. Ding it. Use the car and love the car but take care of it.
Saturday and Sunday was rough but this was achieved….
_________________ '85 Vanagon GL, weekender package, 1.9 wbx named Freddie/ '61 Beetle named Ringo/ '78 Dodge Monaco which is nothing like the Bluesmobile so please don't cast that oily rag upon it. |
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The Pilch Samba Member

Joined: December 04, 2013 Posts: 728 Location: Utah
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 7:16 pm Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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I've been pottering about again. It's nice not to be rushing through brutal installations. So...
I cleaned up the glass, and added as much chrome as I could with the limited amounts of clips I have left...which is two. So I need more.
Then...
I added the door seals. Very rubbery smell, and why are they grey? That's annoying. However, "German" quality was spot on, they fit good, just need to trim one area.
Then I added a couple of hood seals. That was pretty dull..
Then I found some stuff in the glove box with old VW things written on...
...but alas, it's all for a 66, so that was a bummer. No history on this car at all. But it's life starts now!!
I sat and rolled the windows up and down and flexed the vent windows to get those new seals moving and seated.
I must reiterate, JBugs cheap stuff is utter gash. My window cranks are bent. I bent them back. But that's not the point.
Despite being on a budget, as most of us are, it's false economy buying the cheapest stuff, and also ridiculous buying anything from JBugs. In fact, they are so irritating, they don't even deserve to have capitalization when I type JBugs.
jbugs.
There...see, jbugs. Knobbers.
Oh by the way, their customer service level as well as their parts score around a 2 out of ten, which is why I've boycotted them, just fyi. _________________ '85 Vanagon GL, weekender package, 1.9 wbx named Freddie/ '61 Beetle named Ringo/ '78 Dodge Monaco which is nothing like the Bluesmobile so please don't cast that oily rag upon it. |
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67rustavenger Samba Member

Joined: February 24, 2015 Posts: 10995 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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Gary,
The door seals are grey likely, due to the mold release agent on the seals. Over time the grey will deepen closer to black.
Believe it or not, I cannot think of any time I have ordered any parts from j-bugs.
I've read too many complaints on the quality of the parts they peddle to waste time or money with them.
On the bright side of life for you. The car is looking great. _________________ I have learned over the years.
Cheap parts are gonna disappoint you.
Buy Once, Cry Once!
There's never enough time to do it right the first time. But there's always enough time to do it thrice.
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo!
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Käfer2 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 9:15 pm Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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67rustavenger wrote: |
Gary,
The door seals are grey likely, due to the mold release agent on the seals. Over time the grey will deepen closer to black. |
Yes, like original / NOS seals - they are also rather grey due to mold release agent / talc
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The Pilch Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2025 7:22 am Post subject: Re: Messaged the wrong person, acquired a '61 :-D |
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Well thanks fellas that’s excellent. _________________ '85 Vanagon GL, weekender package, 1.9 wbx named Freddie/ '61 Beetle named Ringo/ '78 Dodge Monaco which is nothing like the Bluesmobile so please don't cast that oily rag upon it. |
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