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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:39 pm    Post subject: Which lights belong on early 58 Standard? Reply with quote

Okay, so I'm slogging along on my disaster 58 junkyard rescue. Among the things liberated from it were the tail lights and engine lid. Here's an old pic of it with the lid still mostly on it. It's a brake light lid as can be seen.
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The tail light holes look like this. I see it has 2 holes, but the closest Bus I've found around here was a 59 and rather than the holes, it has notches at the top and bottom of the tail light hole, rather than separate holes.
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The build date of this Bus was October 24th, 1957. From what I've seen, this should have the 58-61 tail lights, or so I've read. But then I was reading the Eccles spec book and saw this.
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Is this a mistake? Would this mean this was the date they switched to the 58-61 lights and flat deck lid? Should I have the bubble ones like these? (leftover from my old barndoor)
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What is the consensus?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2025 9:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Which lights belong on early 58 Standard? Reply with quote

Every USA spec 1958 bus had dollar taillights. Bubble taillights were prior to mid 1957.

The Eccles book is referring to Euro spec buses.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2025 8:54 am    Post subject: Re: Which lights belong on early 58 Standard? Reply with quote

Brake light deck lid buses had the bubble taillights.

Flat and eyebrow decklid got the round glass taillights

Semaphore buses (eurospec) had additional details, and deck lid/taillights changed differently.

From the build date I’d think it would be glass taillights, but from the deck lid I’d say bubble taillights.

What’s the VIN?

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296570?
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From that VIN I’d think it would be like this Jan 1958 panelvan:
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does it have the holes for the reflectors, like on the blue Jan 56 bus in front of the panelvan?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2025 5:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Which lights belong on early 58 Standard? Reply with quote

Clara wrote:
Brake light deck lid buses had the bubble taillights.

Flat and eyebrow decklid got the round glass taillights

Semaphore buses (eurospec) had additional details, and deck lid/taillights changed differently.

From the build date I’d think it would be glass taillights, but from the deck lid I’d say bubble taillights.

What’s the VIN?

Pic from your gallery:

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296570?
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From that VIN I’d think it would be like this Jan 1958 panelvan:
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does it have the holes for the reflectors, like on the blue Jan 56 bus in front of the panelvan?

Right, the VIN is 296570, and in looking at the corners I see no holes for those reflectors. Do bubble tail light Buses have the holes like mine has?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2025 9:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Which lights belong on early 58 Standard? Reply with quote

Bubble taillight buses only have the big holes, no small screw holes.

The screw holes were late '57 and '58

The slots were '59-'61, which take the same style of taillight as the late '57 and '58.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2025 5:00 am    Post subject: Re: Which lights belong on early 58 Standard? Reply with quote

Lind wrote:
Bubble taillight buses only have the big holes, no small screw holes.

The screw holes were late '57 and '58

The slots were '59-'61, which take the same style of taillight as the late '57 and '58.

Perfect, thank you Mr. Lind!
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