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vwgearhead Samba Member
Joined: February 21, 2005 Posts: 100 Location: Los Angeles,Ca
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Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 5:43 pm Post subject: vw h-beam rods chevy journal |
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hello,I just bought a 86mm scat crank with 411 cm and chevy journals for a decent price(used),it needs the rod journals turned down so I took it to the machine shop today and they measure the journals and say yes it is a 2.0 inch chevy diameter journal but the letter next to the 86 on the crank reads "p" which they say means the crank was origionally porsche journal,I want to know what the width of the chevy rod journal is on the big end just so ill know if I have to modify some chevy rods and would this situation cause me a problem,Im definetely going over 200 horsys,also is 5.5 lenght too short for the 86 crank on the street?? please get back at me!!! |
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FASTERFRED Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2005 Posts: 294 Location: PARACHUTE, COLORADO TERRITORY
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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VWGEARHEAD...Here is what I think I know about you rod journal questions....Stock VW and Chev journal width at the big end is about 22.7MM or 0.895 inch...The Porsche journal width is about 20MM or 0.790 inch....So it seems if the orginal Porsche journal size (diameter) which is 53 MM which is 2.0866 is ground down to the 2.000 inch Chev there is also room width wise, to widen it from the narrower Prosche width (.790) to the the Chev width (.895). Widening probably involves taking material from both sides of the journal to keep the rod centered, proper filleting/radius at the corners and proper finish on everything....You can probably measure to see if the jounal has been widened....The question of rod ratio (what rod lengths with what stroke) is one of the bigger debates with VW engine performance and longivity....Most seem to feel a ratio of about 1.65 to 1.70 is a good compromise for a peformance engine....Your combo (5.5 rod X 86) would yeild a 1.63 ratio...Stock engine was a 1.98 ratio....A 5.7 rod would bring it up to a 1.68 ratio....Others will have some comments, but for a street engine the shorter rod is probably OK...Generally the shorter the rod the more torque will be produced at lower RPM....Longer the rod (higher ratio) the higher the power band will be moved up in the RPM range, so take your pick....I am sure you will now get other responses to your questions as there may be errors in my opinions.... ....The Lizard... |
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