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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:42 am    Post subject: Okrasa and a Convertible W decklid? Reply with quote

Stuffed the Okrasa in my vert last night and as I was hoping would not be the case the Knetch (sp) air cleaners don't fit with the convertible decklid. Anyone run this set up before? On the right side I think there is less then 2 inches of clearance. I was thinking maybe the mushroom style bug air cleaners might work. Anyone have 2 of those for sale or can someone measure the height of a mushroom air cleaner starting above the clamp?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regular mushrooms will hit. You (and I) need to find those ever elusive offset mushroom air cleaner. I have seen them a few times but the owner don't want to sell them.

Forgot to mention mushrooms fit if you take out or <gasp> bend the drip rails
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bummer that not what I was hopping to hear, but thanks for the info. There is one off set mushroom air cleaner for sale in the classifieds and it's only $1000, now if I could just find another one.Rolling Eyes Have you tried any of the cheesy after market chrome air cleaners? There are some low profile type 4 air cleaner I saw that might work. I would be happy with anything for now just so I could start driving it while I look for something a little more vintage.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

why don't you just have someone make some offset mounts for your current aircleaners that push them back to the firewall more? I'm sure someone with aircleaner fabrication skill could be found in the cal look forum, I know Kafer Dave had some crazy aircleaners made for his 48's to fit the decklid without having offsets.....just an idea!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

An offset would be cool so I could still use the Okrasa air cleaners. I will have to look into that for sure. Just seems like there had to be a solution for this problem back when Okrasas were being sold. They made the turn downs for Ghias seem like they would have had something for convertibles.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having someone fabricate (basically reuse the existing carb throat flange ring) offset is the way to go, I'm sure its been done before on Hebs a few times, not a difficult thing to have done by your local metal shop.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just seems like there had to be a solution for this problem back when


That's what I thought after finding out a Judson aircleaner won't fit in an oval convert. Years ago, I think I used the shorter 40hp 28 carb to get the Judson set-up to fit.

You should be able to get a talented metal guy to fab something that looks correct.

I'll bet many ovals got the water drain boxes cut off "back when"
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

something like this comes to mind

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this obviously is a Bus Elbow, but I'm sure you could go down to your local hardware store, but a normal "elbow" in a size that would fit, cut a slit in it, grab a normal aircleaner clamp ring, and then put your other aircleaner on (don't know if there will be enough room without seeing it) and do it like an old school hook up like they did for Ghias....just a thought while I'm at work. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This might help.
Many people use the wrong aircleaners on Okrasa kits.
There is an alternate unit made by MANN.
The mann aircleaner is also much thinner, hence more clearance.
Here is one for sale in the classifieds right now !
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=264049
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richard Roth wrote:
This might help.
Many people use the wrong aircleaners on Okrasa kits.
The correct unit is made by MANN, not Knecht.
The mann aircleaner is also much thinner, hence more clearance.
Here is one for sale in the classifieds right now !
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=264049


I will have to check my Okrasa literature again but I am pretty sure that Knecht is the correct air cleaner.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just did some checking and have seen Okrasa literature with both Mann And Knecht aircleaners.
So I guess either might be correct.
However, the Mann aircleaner might give you the needed clearance.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check the March '95 issue of Hot VWs. Steve Mierz (Stoney Creek, Ct)had his Okrasa powered '54 vert featured in it. It has modified Knecht filters, but they look unaltered.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will have to check that out. I think modifying the Knecht air cleaners will be the best solution. BUT I hate the idea of cutting up my beautifully restored Knecht air cleaners. I think the first thing I will try is some kind of adaptor to move the air cleaner back with out cutting them up. Maybe if I can't make something work I will look for a ruff pair of Knecht air cleaners to modify.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use a set of knecht cleaners from a porsche 356A and have no clearance issues. I am also useing a 56 convertible deck lid. However I took the rain catchers off so I may have a little more room.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

69judson wrote:
I use a set of knecht cleaners from a porsche 356A and have no clearance issues. I am also useing a 56 convertible deck lid. However I took the rain catchers off so I may have a little more room.


The rain catchers are the only issue. My Okrasa has no clearance problems in my split bug.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about regular 36 horse oil bath cleaners? They have an offset.

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