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flatfourfan Samba Member
Joined: September 14, 2004 Posts: 187 Location: Pretoria, South Africa
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:45 am Post subject: The Ultimate 23 Window Restoration? |
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I was actually going to cut up the 58?? and graft the panels onto a 15 window fleetline, however I've decided that I'm at least going to try and salvage this once cool bus. Stay Tuned for more in March, when I'm home from the states.
If there's any tips or advice you can give me or if you've done anything similar, feel free to drop me a line at [email protected] as I'm open to any ideas, if you want to just say "scrap it", then skip the email and tell it to yourself in the mirror in the morning.
Stay Tuned. _________________ 1957 KCC Porsche Speedster
www.vwsport.co.za
www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/forum
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Bongo Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:50 am Post subject: |
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That shit will buff out. _________________ 1964 Standard
1962 Single Cab
2002 Golf St.Car |
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flatfourfan Samba Member
Joined: September 14, 2004 Posts: 187 Location: Pretoria, South Africa
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Bongo Samba Member
Joined: December 03, 2004 Posts: 872 Location: Egĺ, Denmark
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:06 am Post subject: |
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I would say that's a wee bit optimistic, that bus is in a sorry state. I don't even think it's worth your while saving the roof windows, they look pretty shot, and there's companies making repros now if you really want to go that route. Imho that deluxe is long gone, plus it has been vultured, so all the expensive bits are missing. And you paid money for this? _________________ 1964 Standard
1962 Single Cab
2002 Golf St.Car |
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flatfourfan Samba Member
Joined: September 14, 2004 Posts: 187 Location: Pretoria, South Africa
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:16 am Post subject: |
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yup, the thing is I'm from South Africa and there are no 23 window busses around. zip zero, buying parts from overseas is impossible so I have to make do with what I have.
I have 2 boxes with stuff in as well, bumpers, trim, glass, sunroof section etc etc.
Yup I paid money for it. _________________ 1957 KCC Porsche Speedster
www.vwsport.co.za
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tanhis Samba Member
Joined: July 23, 2005 Posts: 655 Location: Rauma Finland
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:52 am Post subject: |
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Also is it me or does this 23 have semaphores on the B-pillars in the last picture???
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Jep those are semaphore holes |
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flatfourfan Samba Member
Joined: September 14, 2004 Posts: 187 Location: Pretoria, South Africa
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VolksWouteŽ Samba Member
Joined: November 30, 2003 Posts: 377 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:31 am Post subject: |
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I think judging by the holes for the rear lights 1958 and up. |
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flatfourfan Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:35 am Post subject: |
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so my original guess at 1958 was about right..?
Thanks a lot.
I'm still in two minds about what to do with it. _________________ 1957 KCC Porsche Speedster
www.vwsport.co.za
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tanhis Samba Member
Joined: July 23, 2005 Posts: 655 Location: Rauma Finland
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:37 am Post subject: |
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semaphores, rhd, euro tail lights no barndoor I would say 1955 - 1957
edit or to what year dit the euro tail lights changed to big ones |
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flatfourfan Samba Member
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Mikee Samba A.D.D. Boy
Joined: March 22, 2004 Posts: 3510 Location: Puyallup WA
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:41 am Post subject: |
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shit, put a motor in it and drive it, LOL _________________
localboymark wrote: |
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I would have kicked the guy right in the dick, balls, ass and face and destroyed his weed. Hippies suck. |
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VolksWouteŽ Samba Member
Joined: November 30, 2003 Posts: 377 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:45 am Post subject: |
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tanhis wrote: |
semaphores, rhd, euro tail lights no barndoor I would say 1955 - 1957 |
Europe used the sema`s till 1 june 1960 and the rear corners stopped in august 1963.
When i look good to the photgraph ,i see two hole`s for rear lights.
flatfourfan , can you confirm this or isn`t the bus at home?
What kind of bumpers do you have ,and what shape is the decklid and can you say that its the original one?
The integral reflector rear lights stopped in may 1958 ,so does the brake light in the decklid. |
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flatfourfan Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:08 am Post subject: |
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VolksWouteŽ wrote: |
tanhis wrote: |
semaphores, rhd, euro tail lights no barndoor I would say 1955 - 1957 |
Europe used the sema`s till 1 june 1960 and the rear corners stopped in august 1963.
When i look good to the photgraph ,i see two hole`s for rear lights.
flatfourfan , can you confirm this or isn`t the bus at home?
What kind of bumpers do you have ,and what shape is the decklid and can you say that its the original one?
The integral reflector rear lights stopped in may 1958 ,so does the brake light in the decklid. |
The bus is currently sitting at a friends house, but when I last saw it, I can confirm that it does indeed have two sets of holes out back and both seem to be stock with the top ones being filled sometime along the line.
I have a small pic of one of the bumpers that I've attached. Sorry about the size. Can you make anything out?
The decklid is inside, I'd have to check over Saterday. _________________ 1957 KCC Porsche Speedster
www.vwsport.co.za
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VolksWouteŽ Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:26 am Post subject: |
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The bumper on the pic looks like a ribbed bumper, when it`s the original one you`ll find a decklid with brakelight.
Look at the cargo doors ,they must be flat in the door handle area.
When you go to the bus ,check the engine compartment . On the drivers side for a RHD ,next to the battery tray you`ll find the chassisnumber. |
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flatfourfan Samba Member
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Bongo Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 5:50 am Post subject: |
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If you take that on as a resto, you deserve major applause. I'd love to watch that progress. _________________ 1964 Standard
1962 Single Cab
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flatfourfan Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 5:59 am Post subject: |
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Or a slap around the ear-hole.
I've decided to take it on, I can't justify chopping up a early 23 window unless I've actually tried to straighten it out first. In the words of John Jones, "anything I do to this will only be an improvement"
First thing is to see if the side can be straightened out, I have an appointment with a local wrecker in March who says he'll go at it with Hydraulic Jacks to see how much he can pull out, (he's very optimistic and said I'd be surprised at what they can do), at that stage, I'll decide if I'm going to go on or not.
Gotta at least try save it. _________________ 1957 KCC Porsche Speedster
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Bongo Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 6:07 am Post subject: |
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Wooooooooo Hooooooooo go for it. Keep us posted. _________________ 1964 Standard
1962 Single Cab
2002 Golf St.Car |
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jeremyrockjock Samba Towbar Builder
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 7:03 am Post subject: |
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_________________ Why buy what you can build.
Step away from the fiberglass and no one gets hurt!! |
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