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evville Samba Member
Joined: December 21, 2005 Posts: 19
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:46 pm Post subject: Is a stock 66 bug a good bug to buy? |
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I have the chance to purchase a completely stock 66 bug. It has some rust in the floor pans and doors. The owner says he will give me two stock german doors that are free from rust as replacements. It has the stock 1300 engine but needs a rebuild. Susp. is good but like all the car, everything should be gone over. Do you think this is a good bug to purchase?
Any help would be most appreciated.
I have the chance to purchase a 56 oval I posted in the oval section of Samba asking the same question, a 75 convert in the appropiate section along with this 66. I am wondering what is the best bug to purchase out of this group. I plan on making one of these my daily driver and just getting it stock or close to stock and running well. which one would be the best?
Again any help would be appreciated,
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WagenKult Samba Member
Joined: October 26, 2004 Posts: 169 Location: Antelope Valley, Ca
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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If I had a choice between a 56 oval, a 75 vert, and a 66, I would definitely take the oval. It also depends on the shape of the vehicles. This is just my opinion....Good Luck _________________ Vintage Air-Cooled VW Garage & Vintage Parts |
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i_want_a_pre_49_ratbeetle Samba Member
Joined: June 23, 2004 Posts: 442 Location: Martinsville Virginia
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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well i have a 66.. never owned a beetle older than a 63 but if i could id grab an oval.. if all are similar money... im not sure of conditions of the other cars.. but oval says class to me..... im not sure i could make an oval a dialy driver.. a 66 yes. the oval id not put it out to get damaged everyday in regular commutes to job & parking lots... have been hit several times in parking lot 1 time did over $3,000 damage to my truck
the vert? well it probably is a super beetle. nice to have.. fun in the sun.. but tops need replacement occasionally... but if similar conditions overall & money.. chose the oval....
cry if it gets totalled & parts will sell for more than the 66.. but im not too sure of current vert parts pricing..
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Hakka Samba Member
Joined: November 21, 2004 Posts: 620 Location: PNW or Norway
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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Oval. |
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fifty-five Samba Crash Test Dummy
Joined: August 27, 2004 Posts: 1188 Location: over by the Farm
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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Get the oval and put a dual port 1600 and later tranny and you will have a great driver. Although it is a little harder to see behind you, but it is ALOT better view! It just don't get much better than a oval! |
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Juan Samba Member
Joined: September 01, 2003 Posts: 878 Location: Miami, FL
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:57 am Post subject: |
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Best is what you like best
Of course, it also depends what shape these cars are on, how much the owner is asking for and whether that is a fair price or not, etc. etc. etc.
I would take the oval, given that all three cars are more or less in the same condition. _________________ Instagram: @juanskombi
1967 Velvet Green/Pearl White Kombi
1964 Pearl White Ghia Coupe
1969 BMW 2002
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georgiabug Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2006 Posts: 106 Location: Augusta,G.A.
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:47 am Post subject: |
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Ihave a 66' with a 12 volt conversion, 1600 dp . It was just a shell when I bought it for 200.00. Well it's up and running now and would'nt give anything for, But thats the oldest model I could find at the time, Give me a chance to buy an oval-----You guessed it time for the wife to give me slack. _________________ Just Bugit
1966 bug
1972 bug
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jhicken Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2003 Posts: 9466 Location: Fallbrook, CA
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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On the other hand, nothin beats top down motoring. If you live in an area where the climate can support it, consider the vert. Trust me, I've owned VWs from the 50's, 60's and 70's. Both hard tops and sunroof's and I will always have a convertible in my life.
Although everyone loves vintage cars, the oval may not be practical as a daily driver, the '66 could be a reasonable driver but the '75 with the better suspension, better ride, more luggage and passenger room, more powerfull motor [speaking to their stock form], better electrics and a relatively more economical parts replacement, the '75 might be a better buy. Granted, replacing a top can get pricey, but properly cared for, it can last you 10 years under normal use.
So don't write off the '75 so quick.
-jeffrey _________________ Der Kleiner Kampfwagens |
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cbr900racer Samba Member
Joined: April 29, 2005 Posts: 1360 Location: middle tennessee
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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you gotta do what feels right to YOU. i bought a 66 back in January and i LOVE IT! but, i would jump on an oval in decent shape (soon as my bank account recovers). my new wife mentioned couple of weeks ago that she wouldnt mind having a vert (is it any wonder i married her..LOL). i guess the question isnt "which one should you buy"...its "which one should you buy FIRST" good luck! |
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Rolencoaster Samba Member
Joined: February 21, 2005 Posts: 127 Location: Olympia (It's the Water....)
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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I love my stock '66, but I would trade it for an oval if it were offered. Don't think that would get me much of one though. |
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oldskoolvdub Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2005 Posts: 7 Location: Lafayette
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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daily driver? keeping it stock? go for the 75. thinking of restoring/modifying? 66 want to impress everyone on the samba? oval |
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gt1953 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13848 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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How deep are your pockets?? _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
72 type 1
72 Squareback
({59 Euro bug, 62, 63, 67, 68, 69, 73 type ones 68 & 69 type two, 68 Ghia all sold}) |
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Ragman The Sambinator
Joined: July 18, 2003 Posts: 3517 Location: Denver
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:14 am Post subject: |
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For a daily driver, I think a 66 would be the best choice.
A little vintage, cheaper to restore/maintain than the oval, and it has more character than the fat chick. If it were for weekend use, I'd say the oval. If it were for your wife or your 'life partner', I'd say the Fat chick vert. But, for a daily driver, I'd go with the 66. |
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vwoval.com Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2004 Posts: 255 Location: MS, USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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I've resto'ed (along with many others) a 72 Convertible, 66 Hardtop and have a 57 oval. Seriously.. the cheapest car to keep going is going to be the 66 hands down. Swap it to 12v and hit the road.
BUT it all depends on the condition of each car. _________________ chris
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www.vwrides.com, check it out. |
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LordGarth Samba Member
Joined: May 24, 2005 Posts: 264 Location: Monroe, WA
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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I have had my '66 for 16 years now and one thing I can tell you. It is easer to get parts for then some of the older models, though I would love to have an oval as well. However, I would NEVER part with my '66. |
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dantrefethen Samba Member
Joined: April 28, 2004 Posts: 729 Location: Boise Idaho
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:07 pm Post subject: 66 bug |
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I have had my 66 bug for 27 years and love it!
The 66 has more power than the stock 56 and is simpler and cheaper
to work on than the 75 vert.
If you want a trailer queen get the oval.
For a daily driver get the 66 and do a 6-12 conversion.
Later 66s are already 12 volts
Want more power, push the 1300 to a 1600.
Dan |
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67 Florida Deluxe Samba Purist
Joined: June 21, 2005 Posts: 7987 Location: Gainesville and Tampa, Florida
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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Despite popular opinion, a 6volt is just as reliable as anything else as long as it is in good condition. Granted, there is a little maintenance involved. Any 6 volt (just like any other car), needs to have clean terminals to work the best. Be sure the battery terminals, body-to-engine strap is nice and clean and all fuse terminals are clean and 6 volt will serve you just fine.
FYI, I have a '65 6-volt and a '67 12-volt. They are both GREAT cars and perform as they are supposed to. Granted, I keep up with maintenance as required...
- Kent _________________ -Kent (BaT "daleallen")
OG member of the '67 Posse
A few of my toys, past and present
'56 Oval, '66 KG Conv't, '67 21-Window, '67 Bug, '79 SuperVert, '55 Pre-A Continental |
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dantrefethen Samba Member
Joined: April 28, 2004 Posts: 729 Location: Boise Idaho
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:45 pm Post subject: 6-12 volt |
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My car was kept 6 volt for a very long time before I caved in and did the
conversion.
It had become difficult to find 6 volt batterys and parts.
The conversion also allowed the for use of a modern high powered sound system.
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sixfootdan Samba Smartass
Joined: February 13, 2002 Posts: 4848 Location: \Lo*ca"tion\, n. 1. The act or process of locating.
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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I'd stay away from the Super, The 66 sounds ok. IMO _________________ Schrodinger's cat walked into a bar and it didn't.
GO SEAHAWKS!!! |
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aircooledberndoggie Samba Member
Joined: September 04, 2005 Posts: 136 Location: Central Coast via SO CAL
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:15 am Post subject: |
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I have bought and also passed on a LOT of bugs..........But the only one in my entire life i regret was not buying an oval when i had the chance.........That was many years ago and i still regret it! I love my 66 but it's no oval............... |
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