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VW1948
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 Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 2:27 pm Post subject: Which gearbox for 1962 squareback? |
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Hi,
I have a squareback from 1962 that has a broken gearbox  . Can I use any type 3 gearboxes? Are there different ratios in the gearboxes for different years?
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60DoubleTurd
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Can we see some pics of this 62 squareback and get a VIN from you?? If you dont want to post the VIN here can you email it to me or PM me with it. I like to keep track of how many real 62 squares are out there. Thanks in advance!
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Russ Wolfe
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 8:00 am Post subject: |
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| EverettB wrote: |
| Any Type 3 swing axle gearbox, 1962-68. |
'67 and '68 would be 12volt systems and would require a change to 12V for the car including the flywheel. Or an adapter bushing to run the 6V starter in a 12V bellhousing.
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hoss
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Up to what VIN was the special "stamped" gearbox that I have heard about?
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60DoubleTurd
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VIN VIN VIN VIN VIN VIN VIN VIN VIN VIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Russ Wolfe
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| VIN VIN VIN VIN VIN VIN VIN VIN VIN VIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
0119975
http://www.type3registry.com/reg_detail.php?regid=10221
That is the number that was on the tag in the tire well.
It came off that chassis that I showed in the other post.
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VW1948
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| Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 10:12 am Post subject: |
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| Can we see some pics of this 62 squareback and get a VIN from you?? If you dont want to post the VIN here can you email it to me or PM me with it. I like to keep track of how many real 62 squares are out there. Thanks in advance! |
Sorry for late reply, I have been out of town for the weekend. I will get you the vin this week.
The gearbox broke in the 70's and the car was sitting in a garage until late 90's. When the car was left in the garden it was not to rusty... I will check how much rust there are now . As you can see from the picture it needs urgently to washed...[img]http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=273990[/img] |
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VW1948
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| Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 10:18 am Post subject: |
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| hoss wrote: |
| Up to what VIN was the special "stamped" gearbox that I have heard about? |
What is a special "stamped" gearbox? 
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VW1948
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| Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 10:27 am Post subject: |
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Thank you to all for your help. 
Does all gearboxes have the same ratio? Which gearbox number had the earlist 12volt gearboxes?
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Russ Wolfe
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| Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 10:29 am Post subject: |
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| 62type3square wrote: |
| Can we see some pics of this 62 squareback and get a VIN from you?? If you dont want to post the VIN here can you email it to me or PM me with it. I like to keep track of how many real 62 squares are out there. Thanks in advance! |
Sorry for late reply, I have been out of town for the weekend. I will get you the vin this week.
The gearbox broke in the 70's and the car was sitting in a garage until late 90's. When the car was left in the garden it was not to rusty... I will check how much rust there are now . As you can see from the picture it needs urgently to washed... |
That should fix it.
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| hoss wrote: |
| Up to what VIN was the special "stamped" gearbox that I have heard about? |
What is a special "stamped" gearbox?
Best regards
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The "stamped" gear boxes had stamped metal shock attachments on the axle tubes, and very short plates where the backing plates were welded on. As in this picture.
The later ones had the whole outer end as one forged piece.
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Thank you to all for your help.
Does all gearboxes have the same ratio? Which gearbox number had the earlist 12volt gearboxes?
Tarek |
T-3 and T-1's have different ratios. So stay away from T-1 gear boxes, if you can.
T-1's had a 4.375 final ratio and T-3's had a 4.13. This means that if you put a T-1 differential into your T-3, you will be turning a couple hundred RPM's more to get the same ground speed.
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VW1948
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| Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 11:38 am Post subject: |
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This appears to be a 64 or later model.
Type 3 VIN #s |
Which pieces are incorrect if the vin is saying 62?
I know that the car is registred as a 1962-01-01 in the dmv, I will get the VIN tomorow and we will find out.  |
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60DoubleTurd
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Yeah, but it has a 1500 emblem on it. With the VIN that Russ gave makes it a 63.
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60DoubleTurd
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Sorry Russ. I wanted the VIN for the square we are talking about. I got the one for the 34.
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I also just noticed that there are no holes or bumper bolts visible which makes it earlier. Maybe someone in the 70s liked the chrome look and tried to hop it up!! 
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