Side scoops

volksaddict · Samba Member Joined: August 19, 2003 Posts: 1759

Interesting topic. I've heard people say the scoops don't help and even hinder before. Yes, many busses do have the holes from scoops added by po's. Personally, I don't like the look but to each his own. I'd rather weld the little holes in than patch the whole vent section from the po who hacked the whole area out, another common modification. I have 1 old panel, the po cut out the battery box on the drivers side and bent it down like a scoop, looks like it sucked up mud from the rear wheel very well. The carb intake volume is something to ponder too, I bet those 44's on a 2 litre suck half as much as the whole cooling system on a 36 horse! What about removing the engine cover or apron? I've heard pro and con there too- more air - disturbs the flow to the fan, which is it?
J Pickens, when you check your temp with that ir magic wand, what are you checking? oil temp, head temp, other? I mean, if you aim it at the cooling tin are you getting head temp or what? Just curious.

Eaallred · Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 8:22 am Post subject:

Removing the rear apron will recirculate the hot air. Propping open the rear engine lid will also recirculate the hot air. Both not a good thing.

If you are running the 'sled' tin that connects the engine case to the heaterbox, you can get away with removing the front tin that straddles where the engine and trans meet. If you have a doghouse cooler, stab a dryer hose on the end of the outlet and route it so it wont recirculate back into the fan. Been running my bus like this for a while now. I can't get the engine to over heat, no matter how hard I try. Flooring it up a canyon while it's 100+ degrees, and it doesn't miss a beat.
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DanM · Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 8:40 am Post subject:

NorCalWeekender · Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 9:23 am Post subject:

Eaallred · Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 9:30 am Post subject:

It seems like it would be easy enough to utilize Nates clamp idea to secure the fiberglass/plastic scoops to the bus. Wouldn't it?
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pyrOman · Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 10:16 am Post subject:

[quote="so-23]finally a thread where everyone can talk about how much non-stock vw modifications SUCK!

i took the side scoops that came on my bus off and smashed them with a hammer so nobody would find them in the garbage and drill their bus for them.[/quote]

That's right! It's a good thing you came to the right place and ask what to do with your bus. WE are THE authority on what you should do with your bus. Unless we approve of it you are absolutely forbiden to do anything to your bus.

WE know. If you don't believe US, just ask US, WE'll tell you!

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tarzan271 · Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 10:24 am Post subject:

NorCalRiviera wrote:

Lind · Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 10:43 am Post subject:

this is a little off subject, but I think worthy of mention as long as people are talking about IR temp gauges and the such. has anybody put an exhaust temperature gauge in a VW? I drove a diesel pickup truck last summer that had one and it was incredibly responsive. as soon as you put the engine under a load, ther temperature would shoot up. with a little practice I was able to drive quite a bit more effeciently and keep the exhaust temperature down. things like oil temperature and head temperature start with heat from combustion which can easily be measured with an exhuast temperature gauge. I am going to put one on my '61 bus next spring.

j.pickens · Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 8:36 pm Post subject:

j.pickens · Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 8:46 pm Post subject:

NorCalWeekender · Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 6:18 am Post subject:

To respond to Lind, I'd never heard of an exhaust temp gauge! That would definitely be an interesting way to check your temps. I never figured exhaust temps changed that dramatically when you're driving.

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KevinCompton · Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 12:34 pm Post subject:

Well you guys never let me down. Thanks for shaking me out of my stupor. Sorry guys. No I won't do it your right it does look gay. I looked more closely at a bus that had them and I really don't like it.

but in my defense I would never drill holes do it...it already has the holes for it.

Anyways no scoops for me, except icecream.


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