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Attorney Isaiah Loophole Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2005 Posts: 602 Location: Zebulon, GA
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:09 pm Post subject: redrilling lug pattern |
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I have wide five pattern on my car and I am wanting to go with some 5 on 5 chevy wheels. Since no adapters are available for this I will be getting four lug vw drums drilled to the 5 on 5 because I heard that the wide five drums cannot be redrilled. My question is what all will be needed and what will have to be done to get the four lug drums on my wide five car? or will they just go right on?
Bryce _________________ Bryce
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mailman Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2005 Posts: 1663
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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Bryce,
I've seen suppliers (try CB Performance) that advertise "blank" VW drums...they're not drilled at all. You take 'em to a machine shop and tell them how many holes on what size circle, and you're golden!
Is this to be a high performance application? Or even mildly so? If so, I would recommend that you have the drums drilled but not tapped for lug bolts. Instead, have the lug holes spot-faced flat on the inside, then have lug studs pressed in. The spot-facing not only levels the inside surface of the drum, but recesses the head of the stud to preclude interference with the brake shoes. Then you could use lug nuts instead of lug bolts. The studs are far superior in strength, and the lug nuts are easier to find or replace if need be than the lug bolts would be. Let us know how you make out.... _________________ '64 Bahama Blue Beetle / steel sunroof
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Attorney Isaiah Loophole Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2005 Posts: 602 Location: Zebulon, GA
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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The drums are going on a street dune buggy that sits on a 1962 chassis with a stock 1600 DP. There wont be any off roading.
Bryce _________________ Bryce
Georgia Dubs
61 Beetle "Old Blue"
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mailman Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2005 Posts: 1663
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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I would still recommend the studs. They are just stronger and better, all around. I've done it to my street Beetle.
They are also not expensive, especially considering you need to have the drums machined, anyway. Like everything else, this is just one guy's opinion. You'll do what you think best, and rightly so!
Maybe some others will chime in here, to either back me up, or say I'm nuts! _________________ '64 Bahama Blue Beetle / steel sunroof
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TimD_66 Samba Member
Joined: February 01, 2005 Posts: 1170 Location: San José, California
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 12:39 am Post subject: |
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studs are stronger, and they make putting wheels on a lot easier, because you can slide the wheel on and it will sit there while you tighten the nuts.... _________________ '58 Ragtop bug - 2276T (Re-assembly in progress!)
'65 13 window deluxe bus (SWR/BG)
'04 VW R32 - 3.2L VR6
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dragstart Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2004 Posts: 448 Location: turn around
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 5:47 am Post subject: |
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mailman wrote: |
I would still recommend the studs. They are just stronger and better, all around. I've done it to my street Beetle.
They are also not expensive, especially considering you need to have the drums machined, anyway. Like everything else, this is just one guy's opinion. You'll do what you think best, and rightly so!
Maybe some others will chime in here, to either back me up, or say I'm nuts! |
You're nuts, but I back you up. |
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DirtyDon Samba Member
Joined: February 10, 2006 Posts: 75
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 5:55 pm Post subject: 4-lug drums |
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the 68 4-lug rear drums have a longer "snout" because the 68 axles had longer splines. you have to machine about 11/16" off the snout and they go right on. the fronts go right on without any modificatios.
you will have to drill access holes in your backing plates behind the adjustment stars (wide 5 were adjusted from the outside).
I recently went through this and spotfaced and put studs to run 4-lug acura BBS 17" wheels |
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