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germansupplyscott Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2004 Posts: 7093 Location: toronto
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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yes, the 93mm barrels can be bored for 94mm pistons. _________________ SL |
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Very Large Squirrel Samba Member
Joined: December 12, 2005 Posts: 9 Location: U.K
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the reply .So is it that simple that you just have them bored and fit the easier to get 94mm 2 ltr pistons ! or is there other modifications to do ? such as have the case halfs machined, pistons tops machines , heads machined etc etc. |
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Blaubus Samba Member
Joined: October 25, 2003 Posts: 5153
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:51 am Post subject: |
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if the pin height is different than the 94mm piston, you might need to shim the barrels to get enough deck height. not something you want to make assumptions about. most engines need ~.060 deck to prevent the piston from hitting the head at high revs- crank flex, carbon buildup, etc. |
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germansupplyscott Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2004 Posts: 7093 Location: toronto
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 5:14 am Post subject: |
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even though the pin heights are different, there is no shimming needed. the barrels for 93 and 94 are nearly identical except the 93mm have a 5mm thicker wall. yes, i agree it is always necessary to measure and set deck height regardless of what parts you are using. _________________ SL |
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NASkeet Samba Member
Joined: April 29, 2006 Posts: 2958 Location: South Benfleet, Essex, UK
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:27 am Post subject: 1800 cylinder barrels & pistons |
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Yes, it should certainly be possible, to ream out 93 mm bore, 1800 cc engine, cylinder barrels, to either 94 mm or 96 mm. This is said to now be quite common practice, owing to the lack nowadays, of good-quality, after-market, 96 mm bore cylinder barrels & pistons, such as those from NPR.
If one is going to do that, it would be advisible first derust them, using phosphoric acid solution, which my Californian correspondent, Jim Hayden, obtains cheaply by the US gallon (about 0·8 x an Imperial gallon!), in the form of toilet-bowl cleaner! Some might also suggest molten aluminium spraying of the fins, to improve long-term heat transfer, by inhibiting rerusting.
The thermal conductivity of aluminium (circa 200 W/mºC) is about five times that of iron & steel. It might also be possible to black-anodise the sprayed aluminium, to increase the surface emissivity and hence increase radiant heat transfer.
One can certainly obtain 96 mm diameter pistons, with the correct gudgeon-pin to piston-crown dimensions, but I am not sure about 94 mm diameter pistons.
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Nigel A. Skeet |
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germansupplyscott Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2004 Posts: 7093 Location: toronto
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:57 am Post subject: Re: 1800 cylinder barrels & pistons |
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hey, nige, no-one in north america knows what a gudgeon-pin is. or a crank-pin for the matter. _________________ SL |
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Karl Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2001 Posts: 6170 Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:22 am Post subject: |
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I do! Along with pinking at tip in. |
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