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vwspijlbus Samba Member
Joined: December 23, 2003 Posts: 546 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:24 am Post subject: Q: SO-42 poptop material colour...? |
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SO-42 pop-top material shows up in several different colours:
Does anyone know the structure (if there is any) behind this?
Eg: is there a colour related to a production country / year / ...?
I would like to know what colour my 1967 Dutch SO-42 poptop stof would be correct.
Thanks! _________________ Frank
1967 Dutch SO-42
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Tim Samba Member
Joined: September 04, 2003 Posts: 170 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:33 am Post subject: |
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Correct color is the upper left. The others are reproductions. No exact color match out there right now. I am looking for old Bay window canvas to make one from....
Here is a recent thread....
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1565867&highlight=#1565867 _________________ How we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives.
Annie Dillard
55 Rag Top
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Hella Bro Samba Member
Joined: February 28, 2002 Posts: 1143
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 8:53 am Post subject: |
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It does seem the upper left pic is all OG in excellent shape.
On one of my Westies I pulled canvas off of bays to make my poptop. Ive got to put another one together for my other Westy now. This time Im considerig mixing some material dyes to get a close match, I just haven't had the time to experiment. I forget which manufacturer I use but it is a common one you can get from a fabric/safeway store. The company also has a website with mixtures to make certain colors-Its a good base start anyway. |
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vwspijlbus Samba Member
Joined: December 23, 2003 Posts: 546 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 10:36 am Post subject: |
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I have an adres in the Netherlands that started reproductions for 235,- Euro's. I haven't seen one so far. I would like to before I make an order.
I'ts offered in corn-yellow, orange, brown and gray.
Thanx for the fast replies so far. _________________ Frank
1967 Dutch SO-42
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camperfan Samba Member
Joined: July 03, 2005 Posts: 201
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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although everyone seems to feel that the photo of the upper left canvas is original, I for one DO NOT. I have an original canvas on my poptop SO42 and it does not have a seam at the corner (as shown in the picture) nor does the side window screens extend as LOW as the one shown. Maybe there were variations? but I doubt it.
Maybe I do not know the difference between my ass or a hole in the ground either |
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Tim Samba Member
Joined: September 04, 2003 Posts: 170 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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You are right about the screens being lower on the one in the picture, if it was replaced they did a good job matching the color. _________________ How we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives.
Annie Dillard
55 Rag Top
67 Westy |
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vwspijlbus Samba Member
Joined: December 23, 2003 Posts: 546 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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camperfan wrote: |
I have an original canvas on my poptop SO42 and it does not have a seam at the corner (as shown in the picture) nor does the side window screens extend as LOW as the one shown. |
Hi,
Could you please post a picture of your opened pop-top? _________________ Frank
1967 Dutch SO-42
www.vwspijlbus.blogspot.com |
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Hella Bro Samba Member
Joined: February 28, 2002 Posts: 1143
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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Good eye Mr. camperfan... The last time I saw an OG canvas was about 10 years ago so pardon us that do not have an OG one around to compare. You would be doing us a great service to post some detail pics of yours for reference. |
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crofty Judas of the North
Joined: August 09, 2000 Posts: 19672 Location: Land of Whine and Phonies
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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The closets match out there is PLF's- it should have a white screen btw. _________________ Your Vanagon sucks, Stop waving at me.
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camperfan Samba Member
Joined: July 03, 2005 Posts: 201
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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I will post a picture as soon as I can. Unfortunately it is not going to be today as I keep my camper in storage and not at my residence.
My canvas had a long hole in the front panel (not sure if it was due to rot or from the fabric getting stuck on the outside of the rubber seal when the top was closed) so I chose to sew up two rectangular patches, each identical to the other, then loop stitch them to the top canvas (one patch inside, the other outside) rather than replace the whole canvas. It is only original ONCE!! :+)
Unfortunately I could not get any donor material for the patch so the color is off. The way I try to match/age the patches is by brooming on dirt with a hand broom every time I go camping |
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localboy Samba Longboarder
Joined: December 06, 2003 Posts: 5153 Location: "Mainland", PNW
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Here you go. OG pop top on my '66 SO42. It's a little dirty.
_________________ One man's "patina" is another man's cancer...
Black '65 Resto-Custom S Notch 2110 cc powered
original paint Pearl White '66 Westy SO-42
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velvetgreen Samba Member
Joined: August 17, 2004 Posts: 2746 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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problem is that nobody is making a canvas that is the same colour as OG (would be happy to find out otherwise but as far as i can tell it is true)
Closest match I have sen is PLF's which uses sunbrella material (UV ressistant)- to get it any closer you would need to make it yourself |
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Major Woody Samba Enigma
Joined: December 04, 2002 Posts: 9010 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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velvetgreen wrote: |
problem is that nobody is making a canvas that is the same colour as OG (would be happy to find out otherwise but as far as i can tell it is true)
Closest match I have sen is PLF's which uses sunbrella material (UV ressistant)- to get it any closer you would need to make it yourself |
I agree.
I am getting the Sunbrella top. The material is a zillion times better than OG cotton canvas. I compared the Sunbrella material side by side with my tent stake bag and the color difference is negligible. |
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Alaskan Adventurer Samba Member
Joined: May 09, 2005 Posts: 911 Location: Alaska
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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Woody, I sew Sunbrella for a living, It is the best canvas out their. Just be careful as to not have any rubbing going on when the top is in the down position.The abrasin factor of SUNBRELLA IS very low. Look in to Sunbrella Seamart as it is lined with vyinl.A lot stronger. |
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Stitch Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2003 Posts: 748 Location: Albuquerque , NM
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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I believe this is correct...
_________________ Stitch...
VTO!!!
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vwspijlbus Samba Member
Joined: December 23, 2003 Posts: 546 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:40 am Post subject: |
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Stitch wrote: |
I believe this is correct...
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I don't believe the striped colourscheme is correct... _________________ Frank
1967 Dutch SO-42
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Stitch Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2003 Posts: 748 Location: Albuquerque , NM
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:57 am Post subject: |
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vwspijlbus wrote: |
Stitch wrote: |
I believe this is correct...
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I don't believe the striped colourscheme is correct... |
no....it is. _________________ Stitch...
VTO!!!
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Hella Bro Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 11:01 am Post subject: |
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U funny Mister Stitch! |
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Major Woody Samba Enigma
Joined: December 04, 2002 Posts: 9010 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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Today I received my reproduction canvas from Rolf de Kaam in the Netherlands.
The fabric is the exact same stuff that my side tent is made of. The sewing, velcro etc is excellent. He says they are sewn up by the same sewers who made the canvases for Westfalia originally. It looks that way.
I could not be happier.
I have read in previous posts about nails being used around the interior perimeter at the top to hold the canvas on.
My bus had had its canvas replaced in the past and they used a staple gun to attach that white plastic stripping. What kind of nail would be best used here? I would really rather use staples. |
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bugcollections Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2007 Posts: 795 Location: Texas
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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Just ran over this thread. I have two SO-42s, a 65 and a 66. The 65 had what was left of the original pop-top canvas when I restored it with an NOS canvas purchased from a VW dealer in 1980 by the PO and was still in the box when I purchased the Westy in 2002. The 66 still has the original canvas that is in rather poor shape. Both of these were and are installed with staples.
I would also like to see a picture of the one you received, particularly for color match to the original. |
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