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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dharma_Bum wrote:
I am curious how the 3-window Sunbrella would roll up with the pop-top closed.


Mine rolls up just fine, I'd say it's a non-issue
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dragonfire709 wrote:
Thanks Mightyart!

Lets try this;

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they make those visors for vanagons also?

is there any benifit in them, other than as a sun shade and to look funky?

just wondering how they effect the drag/wind.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:18 pm    Post subject: Sunbrella canvas Reply with quote

I bought mine from go-westy sunbrella ?? I guess they can't use that name anymore, they now call them acrilic. Anyway the fabric is good, no rain passes through. I paid a auto top place to do the install, Nice job. Sometimes it makes no sense getting into a project like this where you really need the outcome to be perfect. Job wasn't cheap $550 to put it on, and yes they removed the roof to to it.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:32 pm    Post subject: Pop Top Replacement Reply with quote

First timer here! Welcome to me!
O.K. I'm getting a little less courageous about tackling the replacing of my '84 pop top canvas. Anyone know of a person/business who will do it for a very reasonable price in Vancouver/Burnaby? Is the best place to buy the canvas from gowesty? Confused Also, is there a place that will give you a "tour" of the camper, how things work, etc. I'm new to the world of campers too. Does the Camper Supplement for the westfalia help?

Thanks! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my wife and I are going to do our canvas, ours screws in i believe. it's an 89 and i saw screws.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mamalemon, You bring it to my house in coquitlam and we'll have a go. Mine's in great shape so no need to futz with it but I'm always willing to have a go with anything Vanagon/Westy. Always happy to meet another local. PM me if you're interested. Bring loads of beer.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aircooledchris

I dont think there is any great benefit to the visor on my friends Van, just breacks up the whiteness of the van. I know that over 60ish he complains of it wobbing about a bit, but on these beasts we dont find dragb to be a major issue!!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:29 pm    Post subject: Bus Depot top trouble Reply with quote

I've just tried installing one of those less-expsnsive Bus Depot tops on my '84, which has the screw-on top. Unlike the original, the top lacks a bead. I started by anchoring the top (top off and upside down) at the midpoint of each side (four screws) and then pulling it into the corners. At the first stretch, the first screw just ripped out. Should I try another approach? Bus Depot says this isn't too hard to do, but I don't want to keep tearig the top. Happy for any suggestions.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Bus Depot top trouble Reply with quote

mcbrydem wrote:
Should I try another approach? Bus Depot says this isn't too hard to do, but I don't want to keep tearig the top. Happy for any suggestions.


Does it not have any sort of edging or seamed edge? Just fabric that is cut and nothing else? If that is the case, i would definitely return it. Otherwise, it will just fray and come apart. The one i bought from bus depot years ago had a grey fabric edging to prevent fraying.

Assuming you have some sort of anti-fray thing, try just tacking it up along the top edge every third screw or so, working your way out from the middle, going all the way around. You don't need to pull hard - just take out the slack.
This will hold the canvas in place as you install the top/canvas combo. Then you can do the more cosmetically obvious work of the bead along the inside of the van and get that right. Then you switch back to the top and take all the slack out, starting in the middle working your way out to the sides (alternating L/R) with the top up.

This is what i did, and am very happy with the install (despite the cheap material), but it also sounds like mine was bigger than the average canvas, so YMMV.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:05 am    Post subject: Westy pop top Reply with quote

It does have a hem, so it's not just plain fabric. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll try that when I get back from vacation.
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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is a good website for instructions on how to install the new canvas for the pop top?
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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Penttila4 wrote:
What is a good website for instructions on how to install the new canvas for the pop top?


http://www.limbobus.org/poptop.htm

Hope you didn't buy the one from Just Krapers!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rudar wrote:
Would it be possible/ advisable to ``upgrade'' from the staple system to one using screws if and when I get around to replacing the canvas? All one would need, it seems, is a rail with some grip to it and holes for the screws; I'd imagine something from the insulation section of the hardware store could be pressed into duty...


My question precisely. I was chatting with Peter at Van-Cafe today and he suggested I ask on TheSamba ... did my search and am now 'quoting' an almost five year old post.

I have an '82 and before I go tearing into this job; does anyone have any experience as to whether the wooden strips can be replaced with a salvaged set of the aluminum rails and appropriate screws.

Hopefully someone has been through this and successfully atempted this 'upgrade'.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow as a prospective buyer looking for our first Westy I am glad I stumbled upon this thread. No more looking at ripped, stained, moldy tents and saying "they can be replaced and aren't too expensive" Now it will be "they can be replaced and aren't too expensive but someonelse is doing it because I will end up in fits of rage" (because I AM just that type). I can totally relate to the comments here on some of the work and getting pissed off - and as such I had to laugh!

Either that or after we borrow our friend's Westy to confirm we want to buy one, we'll then have them over for a tent replacement "party" on our new purchase. Hey, what are friends for?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used www.atelierspk.com Very happy with it. Made in Canada. I paid $485 shipped to California in 8 days.( 2 years ago) Acrylic with three windows.

I heard of horror stories of how fitment can be a issue on cheaper tents so I made sure I went with the best company.

Ben, reputable restorer in Canada recommended which was good enough for me, knowing how many Westy's he restores.

I installed it myself with no help in 8 hours with the top on. (first time) Fitment was like Armani suit or Hugo Boss suit. near perfect.

honestly it was not that hard installing it, bit time consuming but not hard at all. having a few handy tools will definitely help

I'm glad I went with this company because they are not a middle man like gowesty or bus depot or van cafe. they make it themselves.


these are some useful tools to have. The speaker stand you can buy and return at SAM ASh or Guitar Center.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Getting ready to do this on my '81. From the photos and comments I can't see if folks left the rear hinges attached to the top or left them on the van or if it doesn't matter. Any tips would be appreciated. (I'm going to remove & invert the top to do the job)
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Westylife, Fantastic write-up! Now to find 3 guys. Fortunately, my top is OK, but figure I need this at some point for my 86, also happy to have an 86 without staples.

With our nomadic lifestyle the 3 other guys, if I find them, I am probably best off just geting the canvas while they are near!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought the most expensive one from GoWesty and although it is well made, it did not fit.

I removed and reinstalled several times but it just wouldn't work on the bottom part. I had to fudge it a little by cutting the aluminum strips.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was under the impression they are suppose to be tight on the initial install because they will "loosen" up over time...if you start loose she will be flapping in the wind after a couple years ...its a fine line , definately a PITA job but very gratifying every time you pop the top and marvel at your work and can say "yeah i installed that" Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are clearly 2 schools of thought here: those who remove and invert the top and those who replace the canvas with the top in situ.

I took the latter approach simply because I was alone in the middle of almost nowhere. The replacement with the top is place was really pretty easy.

I got to do it twice because the first canvas was totally incorrect and would not come close to fitting. After that I measured before installing and when I got to the 4th canvas I found one that was correct.

Both methods are no doubt fine, but no that if you must try this solo it can be done. Pics on request.
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