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Bay Window Steve Samba Member
Joined: July 13, 2006 Posts: 280 Location: Van Alstyne, Texas
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:11 pm Post subject: Bumper bolt / Muffler Question. |
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Two questions. First, when I liberated my bus from Junkyard hell, it was missing a few parts, with one being the muffler. Here is my question. I recently replaced the exhaust on my bug with a header/fat boy set up. I have the muffler off it, which was quite costly, because its ceramic coated. Now I'm not above buying a bus muffler. Its no big deal, but I hate to have this bug muffler just lying around if I can use it. What is the difference? I mean, with a Type 1 motor setup, it should just bolt right up, right? The Bus is a '69, and the Beetle a '70. I guess what I am asking is, what justifies me spending another $200 or so on a good bus muffler when I have this one already?
Secondly, I need to re-install the bumpers. What size bolts hold those on?
Thanks for all the help. _________________ '73 Transporter - Driver
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51057 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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Most bug mufflers will fit the early bay but if it's a stock 2 peashooter one it's going to come very, very close to your bumper (may rattle). You will also have to add a cutout in your apron.
As well the 2 peashooter muff doesn't give you the torque that a single tip will.
Which bumper bolts do you mean? Bracket to frame? or bracket to bumper or bumper to dogleg? _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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Bay Window Steve Samba Member
Joined: July 13, 2006 Posts: 280 Location: Van Alstyne, Texas
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, I'm sorry, bracket to frame in the front, bumper to bracket in the rear.
I see about the muffler. Okay, no reason to half ass it, so I'll just order me a bus muffler.
Thanks for the info. _________________ '73 Transporter - Driver
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steponmebbbboom Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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busdaddy wrote: |
Most bug mufflers will fit the early bay but if it's a stock 2 peashooter one it's going to come very, very close to your bumper (may rattle). You will also have to add a cutout in your apron. |
Neither of these statements are true. I have run nothing but bug mufflers on my bus the whole time I have had it. There is plenty of clearance provided the bumper, brackets and apron are not bent.
You do want to use the stock single tip exhaust but not because it gives any more power or torque than the beetle one (it doesnt) but because it places exhaust gas in the slipstream instead of the pocket of negative air pressure in the back where it can work its way into the passenger compartment. |
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Bay Window Steve Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 11:47 am Post subject: |
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So that is it then? If that's the case, then I should just use what I have. Hmm.
Anyone know about the bumper bolts, or where I might look to see? _________________ '73 Transporter - Driver
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60's Burnout Samba Member
Joined: December 10, 2006 Posts: 424 Location: SF Bay Area
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:34 am Post subject: |
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"Neither of these statements are true. I have run nothing but bug mufflers on my bus the whole time I have had it. There is plenty of clearance provided the bumper, brackets and apron are not bent.
You do want to use the stock single tip exhaust but not because it gives any more power or torque than the beetle one (it doesnt) but because it places exhaust gas in the slipstream instead of the pocket of negative air pressure in the back where it can work its way into the passenger compartment."
What do you do with the second hole in the bug muffler? |
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Amskeptic Samba Member
Joined: October 18, 2002 Posts: 8568 Location: All Across The Country
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:38 am Post subject: |
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60's Burnout wrote: |
"Neither of these statements are true. I have run nothing but bug mufflers on my bus the whole time I have had it. There is plenty of clearance provided the bumper, brackets and apron are not bent.
You do want to use the stock single tip exhaust but not because it gives any more power or torque than the beetle one (it doesnt) but because it places exhaust gas in the slipstream instead of the pocket of negative air pressure in the back where it can work its way into the passenger compartment."
What do you do with the second hole in the bug muffler? |
You install two peashooter tail pipes in the two holes of the bug muffler if that is what you are going to use.
Step said "You do want to use the stock single tip exhaust " and gave the dead-on reasoning that you should find the single outlet bus muffler and install the damper pipe that exits left.
He himself does not mind exhaust working its way into the passenger compartment of his bus over years of using bug mufflers. Can't you tell?
Colin _________________ www.itinerant-air-cooled.com |
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