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toddwhite Samba Member
Joined: January 13, 2004 Posts: 7
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 12:05 am Post subject: Poll: Bergmann or Crate Motor in 71 bus? |
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Would you rather put a Bergmann or a Crate 1600 DP in your ride.
Has anyone had a Bergmann? Was it/is it a good experience?
Thanks ahead, Todd |
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nik Samba Member
Joined: February 13, 2003 Posts: 849 Location: 1 block away
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 1:36 am Post subject: |
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Everytime I have ever called Bernie Bergmann, I have gotten nothing but rude feedback from the other end. Me personally, I wouldn't give that guy a penny of my money. Maybe others were grateful enough to have a positive experience with this guy.
nik _________________ It ain't easy being cheesy
Analyze this, Biotch!
WTD: Early "Wrap Around" dash pad |
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Eaallred Samba Member
Joined: May 18, 2003 Posts: 5756 Location: West Valley City, Utah
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 7:23 am Post subject: |
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I definitly wouldn't go with a Bergmann motor (do a search here and on STF to find out why), and we don't know who makes the "crate" motor that you speak of.
Any more info on the crate motor for us? _________________ Eric Allred
You have to remember something: Everybody pities the weak; Jealousy you have to earn. |
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Jake Raby Samba Member
Joined: August 23, 2003 Posts: 7433 Location: Aircooled Heaven USA
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 8:26 am Post subject: Re: Poll: Bergmann or Crate Motor in 71 bus? |
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toddwhite wrote: |
Would you rather put a Bergmann or a Crate 1600 DP in your ride. |
Or a Briggs and Stratton?????? _________________ Jake Raby
Raby Engine Development
www.rabyenginedevelopment.com
"I've never given anyone Hell, I just told them the truth and they thought it was Hell" |
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Old Ben Gun Samba Member
Joined: August 26, 2003 Posts: 285
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 10:15 am Post subject: |
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I dont think Bergmann does street motors. At least not what I think of as street. (Stock). He deals with the high end customer and high performance stuff. He has lost touch with his roots so to speak. He is not interested in the small daily driver guy anymore. You know the guys who put hime where he is. Its a shame but I guess he is just following the money. As for a crate engine you will need to do your homework. Stay away from those guys who have the biggest adds in the mags. They are volume dealers and quality suffers a lot. I recomend staying with the old cases, original tim etc. Good luck in your endevor and keep us posted. |
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toddwhite Samba Member
Joined: January 13, 2004 Posts: 7
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 11:56 am Post subject: |
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To be more specific...
I am tasked with fixing my brothers 71 bus. Just pulled the 1600 DP out of it and was thinking of ordering a new motor from Brazil and bolting it back in. He would like some more HP though for the hills but he's not a gear head by any means. Personally I get hesitant to add bolt-ons because in the end they can cause an imbalance. ex. when you put an .009 Distributor in you pick up a nicer timing curve but this can be detrimental because in turn not being vacuum advanced it will not retard the timing if the motor is ever bogged down. Don't get me wrong I ran one in my bug for years, you just have to be carefull how you drive it under load.
So I'm up for suggestions on this one. His needs are reliability and a little more HP for the hills. I've been out of it for a while so I put this one to you guys. I'm skipping the Bergmann, but would like some more options.
Thanks Todd |
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Jake Raby Samba Member
Joined: August 23, 2003 Posts: 7433 Location: Aircooled Heaven USA
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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Old Ben Gun wrote: |
He deals with the high end customer and high performance stuff. He has lost touch with his roots so to speak. . |
High end????? Thats the funniest thing I've heard this millenium! _________________ Jake Raby
Raby Engine Development
www.rabyenginedevelopment.com
"I've never given anyone Hell, I just told them the truth and they thought it was Hell" |
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