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templeofspeed
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 Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:48 am Post subject: Odd hubcaps |
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Anyone know who the manufacturer was on these?
They are on a 1963 beetle, there are more pics of the car in my gallery. |
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53 0val
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:20 am Post subject: Re: Odd hubcaps |
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| templeofspeed wrote: |
Anyone know who the manufacturer was on these?
They are on a 1963 beetle, there are more pics of the car in my gallery. |
My believe those were an EMPI accessory.
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Richard Roth
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Empi had a similar style, but definitely not those.
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L572
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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I saw the same ones in "Ben Hur"..... 
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templeofspeed
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Richard Roth wrote: |
| Empi had a similar style, but definitely not those. |
I vaguely remember an ad in the back of an old Sports Car Graphic for these, it was not EMPI. I was thinking Competition Chemicals (the old simichrome seller), but I am probably wrong. There was someone at a meet I went to at Holbert's in the late 80's that had three hubcaps and the original ad... and was looking for a fourth.  sucks to get old...  |
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Stock Steve
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Richard Roth
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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Eric has the genuine EMPI items.
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1966 Empi GTV MKIV
1954 Kabriolett Beetle
1953 Porsche 356 1500S
1957 Cable brake standard model
1962 cable brake standard model
1956 23 window Samba
1960 Austin Healey 3000
1961 Corvair Greenbrier |
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snotchback
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Richard Roth
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| Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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I think they meant "knock-offs".
Anyway the Porsche wheels pictured are "actual" Rudge knock-off wheels.
The items Templeofspeed is inquiring about are "simulated" knock-off "hubcaps".
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1966 Empi GTV MKIV
1954 Kabriolett Beetle
1953 Porsche 356 1500S
1957 Cable brake standard model
1962 cable brake standard model
1956 23 window Samba
1960 Austin Healey 3000
1961 Corvair Greenbrier |
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empiracer
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| Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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I think these may be Empi .... ?
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snotchback
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overrestored
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:56 pm Post subject: knockoffs |
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"temple of speed" was correct. There was an ad in an old Sports Car Graphic Magazine for these and several other styles of fake knock offs. They were called "Knok Offs" a purposeful mis-spelling of Knock Off. I may be wrong on the mis-spelling. I have the ad somewhere.
I am not certain of the manufacturer of the versions on my car. I am told that they are Empi. They came off of a special empi accessorized original Ghia that Lenny Copp had for sale 15 years ago. It had lots of factory accessories and Empi accessories all documented on the original bill of sale. Lenny's buyer did not want the Lemmerz chrome rims... the narrow white wall michelins... or these knock offs. So I bought these parts.
I don't have a close up shot of my wheels and hubcaps... but here is a fun shot of the car to compare the hubcaps. The knockoff hubcaps on my car consist of 7 parts on each wheel... a complicated affair.
-the spinner
-the mount which attaches to three of the lug nuts
-the 3 special washers which go between the mount and the lugnuts
-the outer chrome ring
-the inner chrome ring
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templeofspeed
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| Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:48 am Post subject: |
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The ones I posted the photo of attach using the stock clips. Thanks for confirming my old memories on the "Knok-offs". That Beeskow looks interesting, and the hubcaps seem appropriate. 
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53 0val
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| Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:02 am Post subject: |
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| templeofspeed wrote: |
The ones I posted the photo of attach using the stock clips. Thanks for confirming my old memories on the "Knok-offs". That Beeskow looks interesting, and the hubcaps seem appropriate.
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Interesting? Quite the understatement. That car is probably the best example of a Beeskow in the world.
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templeofspeed
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| Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:18 am Post subject: |
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Interesting? Quite the understatement. That car is probably the best example of a Beeskow in the world. |
I'll guess there's been some photochopping then..? |
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Richard Roth
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:26 am Post subject: |
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Mystery solved !
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1966 Empi GTV MKIV
1954 Kabriolett Beetle
1953 Porsche 356 1500S
1957 Cable brake standard model
1962 cable brake standard model
1956 23 window Samba
1960 Austin Healey 3000
1961 Corvair Greenbrier |
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Lids
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| Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:30 am Post subject: Old thread new knockoffs |
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Anybody got any info regarding these 4 bolt knockoffs?
They attach to the original EMPI spyders using the 4 screws.
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Rome
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Can't help on the manufacturer, but I do have a story. In the spring '85 I attended a VW meet in northern Ohio, while I was working at VW of America HQ in Troy, MI. I saw this type of knock-off hubcaps from a swap vendor who was asking $80 for the set of 4. I already had my '64 Ghia which was sitting on a '70 chassis, so I knew those would not work on my 4-bolt wheels. I passed on the deal.
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vintage dude
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The caps you show are made by Bullock in the late 50's. They were a fake Rudge knockoff and were available for many different makes. The most common were the ones you show (VW / Porche) and Mercedes 190 ad was posted in blog.
I have a partial set and am looking for some. Are you interested in selling what you have? Please contact me if so.
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Blue Baron
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The original post was from 2007. Best to pm templeofspeed. He last visited yesterday, so he's still around.
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